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Thor Q. Mada
January 16, 2005, 09:20 PM
Lately there are more and more attempts to drag god into the Tsunami disaster here in Asia.
Some try to show it as a sign of his displeasure with the world. (great, I don't like what is happening on earth so I kill 160000 of which a lot are children, and statistically speaking 95% of the others must be innocent of any wrong doing by any moral standard).
The worst is the xians who see an opportunity to spread their evil faith amongst the non-believers. Ugly opportunists they are.
Others try to explain and probably nderstand why a loving god would allow such thing to happen. A pathetic attempt.
Four main religions were hard hit, Moslims, Buddhist, Christians, and Hindhus. Why don't they all come together and admit they had it wrong and some of them since 6000 years.
One would think that not getting a reply over such a long period would be an eye opener, but... organized religion is self sustaining , heavily colluded with worldly power and hard to beat I guess.
And maybe people need some consolence in time of distress, but why choose an imaginary entity which left long time ago without leaving and address is beyond my understanding.
I also wish people would stop referring to "Mother Earth"or "Mother Nature".
Earth or nature is not a family member. Earth and nature is at best indifferent towards mankind.

Karalora
January 16, 2005, 10:45 PM
I also wish people would stop referring to "Mother Earth"or "Mother Nature".
Earth or nature is not a family member. Earth and nature is at best indifferent towards mankind.

Good grief. Are you actually getting your knickers in a twist over the use of a standard metaphor?

Thor Q. Mada
January 16, 2005, 11:16 PM
Good grief. Are you actually getting your knickers in a twist over the use of a standard metaphor?
I even get my knickers in a twist when I hear "The sun goes up or goes down".
Relics from the past, just like religion, and we can do without them.

Occams_Razor
January 16, 2005, 11:41 PM
Lately there are more and more attempts to drag god into the Tsunami disaster here in Asia.

Well it's obvious you haven't even attempted to understand god's actions here. It's simple logic. People who lived or frequented the coastlines hit by the tsunami, but not those who lived or stayed farther inland, were evil and deserved punishment. Coastline inhabiters = sinners. QED.

Karalora
January 16, 2005, 11:44 PM
I even get my knickers in a twist when I hear "The sun goes up or goes down".
Relics from the past, just like religion, and we can do without them.

So if you had your way, parents setting a curfew would say "Be home by the time our part of the Earth turns entirely away from the Sun." If conciseness and clarity in everyday conversation is "a relic of the past," just call me a reliquary.

And be home before sundown if you don't want your dinner to get cold.

Loren Pechtel
January 17, 2005, 12:41 AM
This is religious, not political.

Narapoia
January 17, 2005, 01:08 AM
I find it distressing that the 'miraculous' survival of large numbers of mosques in the stricken area is being automatically taken as a sign from Allah. I suppose it makes sense in a psychotic sort of way,

Allah causes earthquake.
Earthquake causes tsunami
Tsunami wipes out coastal regions, kills over 160000 people.
Allah protects mosques just to show all the good muslims who's boss.

I've been told that allah is all merciful by a muslim before. I'm tyrying to remember why I didn't believe him.

Thor Q. Mada
January 17, 2005, 08:34 AM
So if you had your way, parents setting a curfew would say "Be home by the time our part of the Earth turns entirely away from the Sun." If conciseness and clarity in everyday conversation is "a relic of the past," just call me a reliquary.

And be home before sundown if you don't want your dinner to get cold.
No, but we could at least use a more correct methaphore than the wrong one used now.

Karalora
January 17, 2005, 09:52 AM
No, but we could at least use a more correct methaphore than the wrong one used now.

There is no such thing as a metaphor that is literally correct. A metaphor, after all, is pretending that one thing is another for purposes of poetic illustration--how can it possibly be technically correct?

Proxima Centauri
January 17, 2005, 10:12 AM
So a loving God causes a tsunami or tidal wave, which kills many people so horribly.
You could try taking copies of this poem. (http://home.freeuk.net/worldling/gpoems/atb.html) You can distribute copies openly if it’s OK to be an unbeliever in Hong Kong. If unbelievers have to be quiet in Hong Kong you can leave copies around where people won’t know it was you.
God Fails to Break His Own Record for Killing ( http://www.landoverbaptist.org/news0105/asia.html)
This is also worth reading. Thanks, SLUGFly for pointing it out.
It just makes me so angry. :angry: How can Christians believe that a loving God would allow anything like the tsunami? I fear for those Christians sanity. :worried: