Its too much, theres too many of them...

[jacheatamobits]

I dont know if I can handle this anymore. (internet discussion board debating)

I just get so frustrated about the ignorance of so many X-ians that have computers, I dont know what to do!

I feel like crying.

They just cant seem to respond to a researched argument, and if they try, its some canned response.

Worst of all, I cant even link to outside sources!

I mean, reeeeaaaly!

WTF!

How did so many people get so cut off from logic?

Didnt these people go to high school at least?

Im starting to think of a career in education, or at least give it a look-see.

I need to know how deep this actually goes.:(

[dettus]

What irritates me is the level of conviction that people speak/write with. Often, the less one knows the more they are convinced of their ignorant opinions. Then when they are called out on their errors it's "well they are my opinions!" as if opinions are all created equal.

[jacheatamobits]

That could be said of alot of athiests, also. Sad thing is, we dont start wars over it!

Thats my main modus operendi(sp?), really, to help spread knowlege and truth. Funny thing how most (if not ALL) learned people I know are athiest/agnostic.


BTW, here is the signature i am currently using:



Quote:
"There is a principle which is a bar against all information,
which is proof against all arguments
and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -
that principle is contempt prior to investigation."
by Herbert Spencer

[Bradshaw]

When humans are bred to believe that the world is operated by supernatural forces rather then natural ones, it easy to deny all other logic also.


Once natural causation has been swept out of the world by doctrines of reward and punishment, some sort of unnatural causation becomes necesarry: and all other varieties of the denial of nature follow it.

The only thing that can cure our present day society of its ignorance and irrational thinking is time, and education. That is it. nothing else, and no more.

[jacheatamobits]

Or we rational thinking people could just leave.

man, i would love it if we could have our own planet

[perfessor]

Or we rational thinking people could just leave.

man, i would love it if we could have our own planet
Why can't we have this one? Send the others away.

[Izmir Stinger]

What irritates me is the level of conviction that people speak/write with. Often, the less one knows the more they are convinced of their ignorant opinions.

They say the exact same thing about us.

[Avynth]

Why can't we have this one? Send the others away.

where would they go? would any other planet accept them?

jk! jk! i don't mind you guys as long as you're open to discussion and can back up your views :)

they're not all canned up with useless arguements, i've met a few that could argue against logic (i can't remember what exactly, but i remember it was an interesting conversation...)

[EverLastingGodStopper]

Mod note: this thread seems to focus more on personal experiences living as a an atheist in a theistic world rather than engaging in activism, so I'm moving it from PA&SA to SL.

[Cross_]

How did so many people get so cut off from logic?
Didnt these people go to high school at least?
I am afraid you have not even seen the worst of it. Ignorant people making ignorant statements are one thing. But intelligent people with a college education that make ignorant statements are far more terrifying. I don't know if there is a specific term for that but I keep noticing how people who are otherwise not too stupid completely lose all rational abilities when their favorite ideas are challenged. Religion is only one example it works the same way with politics or morals. Merely providing more education probably won't remedy the underlying problem.

[Aetas]

What really gets me is the canned responses. I hate how you ask them a well researched question and they give you some canned reply thats so bad its funny.

[lordno]

I have spent many years of spare moments considering how to introduce conceptual and critical thinking in an entertaining way to kids starting at about 1st grade. I'm convinced that if such curricula had been established back in the "great reforms" of the late 50's and 60's we would have only about 25% of the morons we have today.

I am sure I have some methods - but the time it takes to fully express them properly and getting them out there to meaningful people is expensive.

[Detrius]

Why can't we have this one? Send the others away.


Create a space ship and name it "rapture." What else do you think they would need?

[dettus]

They say the exact same thing about us.

I think they claim that. That our (my, whoever) belief in no god :rolleyes: is absolute, that belief equals 100% conviction. That's how they think and they are applying how they think unto us. It's the same when they say that we (I, you, whoever) have faith in our beliefs too, just like they do. What's that called? Projection maybe.

[Inchworm]

Hang out on any discussion board long enough, be it about computer games or shock absorbers, and you will eventually come to a point when you want to pull out your hair and cry.

Take a break. Do something different for a few weeks.

BTW, speaking of different, we could always use more mentors at www.icouldbe.org ;-)