Jesus Camp - The movie

[GreyGhost]

I don't know if this is the correct place for this, but there is a documentary coming out called Jesus Camp. It is about militant fundamentalists who are enlisting young children to help them take over the country. Basically they brainwash kids into become soldiers for Jesus who will one day rule the country. You can see the trailer here, it is scary stuff.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/magnolia/jesuscamp/trailer/

[Padre Bear]

Doesn't seem to be a separation issue.

[Toto]

review (http://wwrn.org/article.php?idd=21402)Becky Fischer, who runs an evangelical summer camp where children as young as six are encouraged to "take back America for Christ," says indoctrinating children is not only right but essential.

Fischer is the central character in "Jesus Camp," a documentary about Pentecostal evangelical Christians, some of whom send their children to summer camps where they pray, "speak in tongues" and are encouraged to campaign against abortion.

"Extreme liberals, they have to look at this and start shaking in their boots," Fischer says in the film, which was showing at the Tribeca Film Festival this week.

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In one scene a cardboard President George W. Bush is brought on stage at an assembly so attendees can pray that he make America "one nation under God."

There seem to be some separation issues here.

[lpetrich]

n one scene a cardboard President George W. Bush is brought on stage at an assembly so attendees can pray that he make America "one nation under God."
Doesn't that seem a bit like idolatry? :eek:

And Fascist and Communist personality cultism? :eek: :eek:

[Padre Bear]

review (http://wwrn.org/article.php?idd=21402)

There seem to be some separation issues here.

Seems to be distasteful but protected private associate and private speech more than separation.

I see danger all over it but it isn't public schools or government funded, is it? What are the separation issues?

[Toto]

The separation issues are that these private associations are being used to build a political machine that will attack separation. It's the old problem of what do you do when anti-democratic forces use the democratic process to get elected so they can repeal the laws protecting democracy.

It is at least something to be aware of, even if we can't do anything about it directly.

[Padre Bear]

The separation issues are that these private associations are being used to build a political machine that will attack separation. It's the old problem of what do you do when anti-democratic forces use the democratic process to get elected so they can repeal the laws protecting democracy.

It is at least something to be aware of, even if we can't do anything about it directly.

Yes, concern is appropriate. More than that it is disturbing.

However, so long as at this point they are making no direct interference in the government and are only exercising their right to free association any governmental action would be inappropriate and a real violation of css. Just like PHU grads working as aids in governmental offices so long as they do not use religion as a basis for the formation of recommendations and privilege they are as entitled to be there as any citizen.

[doubtingt]

Yes, concern is appropriate. More than that it is disturbing.

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Its no less disturbing than a "little fascist" camp that used cult like tactics to brainwash kids into striving to one day taking over the country and destroying human liberty and equality. Oh wait, that's exactly what this is.


However, so long as at this point they are making no direct interference in the government and are only exercising their right to free association any governmental action would be inappropriate and a real violation of css. Just like PHU grads working as aids in governmental offices so long as they do not use religion as a basis for the formation of recommendations and privilege they are as entitled to be there as any citizen.

Of course its not appropriate for the government to prohibit them, just as it would be inappropriate to prohibit any such camp no matter what kind of hate and anti-liberty propaganda they were selling their kids.
However, it is directly related to CSS, as their goal is to build a political army against CSS and human liberty. Thus, it couldn't be more relevant to anyone who cares about these principles.