God and Logic

[robertdigregorio]

Churches often state that logic doesn’t apply to God.

Logic is defined as deductive reasoning. Without logic there is no cause and effect.

If logic doesn’t apply to God, then Gods actions (cause) wouldn’t lead to creation (effect).

If Gods actions can lead to creation, then logic must apply to God.

[Wondering]

Your use of the term 'logic' mixes consistent physical consequences (which allegedly follow from God's actions) with rules of logical consequence (ie, syntax) governing a formal language. 'Logic' usually refers to the latter, and it's the definition of 'logic' that's said to fall short of 'God.' The 'logic' under which you suggest God is subject is something else that governs nature about which languages / logics are built to describe.

Wittgenstein describes the same shortfall of logic, stating in Tractatus 6.522: "There are, indeed, things that cannot be put into words. They make themselves manifest. They are what is mystical." (Routledge interpritation (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0415254086))

[kennethamy]

Churches often state that logic doesn’t apply to God.

Logic is defined as deductive reasoning. Without logic there is no cause and effect.

If logic doesn’t apply to God, then Gods actions (cause) wouldn’t lead to creation (effect).

If Gods actions can lead to creation, then logic must apply to God.

'Every sect, as far as reason will help them, make use of it gladly; and where it fails them, they cry out, "It is a matter of faith, and above reason." '
- John Locke, An Essay Concerning Human Understanding (1690)