View Full Version : Jeffs may retain his grip on polygamist followers even from jail
Newswire
September 12, 2006, 09:57 AM
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primitivefuture
September 12, 2006, 10:00 AM
I dont get what's wrong with polygamy. Statistically, there are more female than male, and in the future this trend is going to broaden. What is wrong with polygamy??
Chicken Girl
September 12, 2006, 03:44 PM
I don't mind polyamory, on principle, but I have a big problem with polygamy as practiced by certain Mormon fundamentalists in Utah. It's invariably an arrangement where teenage girls are forced into a group marriage with some 60-year-old weirdo, usually because their parents have sold them to him. It's thoroughly disgusting.
vsop44
September 12, 2006, 03:47 PM
You mean , he 's got several guys in his cell !
Haener
September 12, 2006, 05:18 PM
I don't mind polyamory, on principle, but I have a big problem with polygamy as practiced by certain Mormon fundamentalists in Utah. It's invariably an arrangement where teenage girls are forced into a group marriage with some 60-year-old weirdo, usually because their parents have sold them to him. It's thoroughly disgusting.
Exactly, in such arrangements I always doubt that the women involved entered so voluntarily and of sound mind.
Of course, nothing stands in the way of having a household of multiple adults and what they do in the bedroom.. who cares?
primitivefuture
September 12, 2006, 07:07 PM
So, you guys dont oppose polygamy in general?
senor boogie woogie
September 12, 2006, 07:14 PM
Watch the HBO series "Big Love". it's about a man who has three wives. When I watched it, i had to tell my brain that the three were not his girlfriends, but WIVES, and he treated all of them (the main character is basically a decent person with fundy beliefs). the same, and as wives. it lead to some interesting situations like the first wife "having an affair" with the husband, or one of the wives asking another iif they can have Bill for the night because of a birthday, or an ovulation time, or other celebrations.
The lead character of Bill has to do business with his old cult, which is copied from the Hillsdale, Utah group. These are my favorite characters because they are so creepy. This is my take on polygamy. IT IS CREEPY. It's wrong, and simply put, it just does not work.
Senor
David B
September 12, 2006, 07:16 PM
My view is that what consenting adults do in the bedroom is their own business.
David B (can't speak for everyone, but thinks this view not uncommon in atheist circles)
EasyTarget
September 12, 2006, 08:26 PM
My views (take with grain of salt and insert smilies where applicable):
Polygyny: I don't share well.
Polyandry: I don't have a high enough sex drive to keep more guys occupied, plus it would be unfair to make them share if I am unwilling to do the same.
Monogamy (one spouse per lifetime): That's what I had intended, but it didn't work out. Kind of an ideal, but not always realistically doable.
Monogamy, serial (one relationship at a time): Probably the best I can hope for.
Trading brainwashed 13-yr-olds with your friends/followers for wives: Very bad. Puberty is a multi-year process, not a single day; kids need a chance to finish it and come to terms with themselves before worrying about marriage.
Maybe if we had a law that no one could join a polygamist (any variety) marriage until they were 25 and had lived on their own for a few years? Or would that just result in little communes of unwed cultists in boarding houses, still just as insular and brainwashed, with older cultists shopping amongst them at mixers?
flintknapper
September 12, 2006, 08:40 PM
The only time I think it could be justified is after a bad war, like the Thirty Years War in Europe where all the men (most, anyway) were wiped out, and polygamy was allowed. They probably could have used a bit of it in post
WW2 Soviet Union and Germany as well.
Religious nutters in Utah multi-tasking brain-washed young girls?...forget it.:frown:
PopeInTheWoods
September 13, 2006, 11:00 PM
I don't mind polyamory, on principle, but I have a big problem with polygamy as practiced by certain Mormon fundamentalists in Utah. It's invariably an arrangement where teenage girls are forced into a group marriage with some 60-year-old weirdo, usually because their parents have sold them to him. It's thoroughly disgusting.
True, and just as disgusting is the practice of banishing young men (often called the Lost Boys (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Boys_of_Polygamy)) to keep the female:male ratio high enough to support polygamy. These unfortunates were raised in the cult and often have huge difficulty coping with the real world.
Andy
Loren Pechtel
September 13, 2006, 11:22 PM
I have no problem with polygamy amongst consenting adults. I have serious doubts about how consensual the polygamy is out there and it all too often involves women who are not yet adults. Note that I'm not just going on the news, either--I have worked with several people out there although almost all of them are the outcasts from the polygamists, not polygamists themselves. I have met both of the boss's mothers, though.
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