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trexmaster
November 1, 2006, 08:54 PM
Here's the link: (http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=4768)

According to these data, much conventional wisdom about uncompassionate conservatives is off base. Indeed, conservatives have slightly more compassionate attitudes than liberals; for example, they are three percentage points more likely to say they have tender, concerned feelings for the less fortunate.

Far more important than politics, however, is religion: people who attend their house of worship nearly every week are 15 points more likely to say they have tender feelings toward the less fortunate than people who never attend worship services (or attend less than once a year). That difference persists even when grouping people by their demographic characteristics, such as age, race, education, sex, marital status, and income.

As we all know, talk is cheap. So even if religious people say they feel more compassionate, do they also act more compassionately?

They do. Religious people of all political persuasions are 40 per cent more likely to donate to charities each year than secular people, and more than twice as likely to volunteer. They are also more than three times more likely than secular people to give each month, and three and one-half times as likely to volunteer that often.

And those religious believers aren't just giving to their churches, either. Research on volunteerism and philanthropy shows clearly that people who give and volunteer for religious organisations are far more likely than others to donate time and money to secular charities as well. For example, a 2000 survey of 30,000 people around the United States shows that religious people are 10 percentage points more likely than secularists to give (and 21 points more likely to volunteer) to explicitly nonreligious causes and charities.

Perhaps it is unfair to conclude that secular people (even those who feel compassionate) are simply less generous than religious people. Secularists with compassionate sentiments may simply be more likely to favour non-private means to help others - say, by supporting higher taxes to cover government welfare payments. However, the General Social Survey data do not support this idea: In fact, secularists and religious people are equally likely (25 per cent) to state that the government is spending "too little money on welfare".

So who is more compassionate: the religious right, or the secular left? The answer appears to be the former. The reason for this, however, revolves around religion, not political ideology. The relatively large religious right and fairly small religious left are both far more compassionate than secularists from either political side. The most uncompassionate group of all - in attitudes and behaviours - is a subset of conservatives who are also secularists.

Word is that the author of that article's coming out with a new book explaining this in greater detail.

In the mean time, I think we on the secular left have to do a better job at charity, lest the religious right use this data to brag about their moral superiority.

JamesBannon
November 1, 2006, 09:05 PM
I would want to see how the samples were chosen first and all of the statistics before accepting the article. It doesn't get a very good reception in the forum.

Deacon Doubtmonger
November 2, 2006, 12:39 AM
I suppose numbers are supposed to be the whole story? Nothing's said about the nature and quality of the giving. I once heard a dead-serious ad on an xian radio station by a group wanting money "to end Bible famine in Africa" -- making a complete mockery of the suffering of victims of actual physical famine ... :rolleyes: And every single filthy-rich televangelist ripping money from the wallets of the gullible thought he/she was charitably "doing the Lord's work" ... :banghead:

Darkside
November 2, 2006, 03:34 PM
I suppose numbers are supposed to be the whole story? Nothing's said about the nature and quality of the giving. I once heard a dead-serious ad on an xian radio station by a group wanting money "to end Bible famine in Africa" -- making a complete mockery of the suffering of victims of actual physical famine ... :rolleyes: And every single filthy-rich televangelist ripping money from the wallets of the gullible thought he/she was charitably "doing the Lord's work" ... :banghead:

That was my first thought when I read the title, but the article covered this:


Research on volunteerism and philanthropy shows clearly that people who give and volunteer for religious organisations are far more likely than others to donate time and money to secular charities as well. For example, a 2000 survey of 30,000 people around the United States shows that religious people are 10 percentage points more likely than secularists to give (and 21 points more likely to volunteer) to explicitly nonreligious causes and charities.:

Darkside
November 2, 2006, 03:44 PM
To be honest, I'm not at all surprised by this. The extreme fundamentalist side of the religious right is only concerned with spreading the gospel and generally couldn't care less about helping people's physical suffering unless they have to in order to spread their religion. However, I think this is a minority of the religious right. There are many religious charities that really do help people. There are many religious communities whose members do regular charity work and raise large amounts of money for charitable purposes. From what I've seen, when atheists do come together in organizations (which isn't often), it's generally for debate and discussion, not charity, and whatever money is collected is used to cover the cost of the room they're renting.

Christina Mirabilis
November 2, 2006, 05:58 PM
I've done lots of fundraising over the years, and I've generally found that religious folks tend to give a lot to poverty-related charities and less-to-non-religious folks give more often to educational, research and environmental causes. The easiest thing to fundraise for is anything to do with animals. People clearly like them better than they like other people.

Castorama
November 2, 2006, 06:58 PM
Left wing causes may be in consensus with me, in that thay find the very idea of charity to be questionable, as it requires the will and insight of the rich and paints a picture of a 'desperate struggle', taking pressure off governments, whilst in reality, they can do a lot more than they currently are.

Griff
November 2, 2006, 09:01 PM
Here's the link: (http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=4768)



Word is that the author of that article's coming out with a new book explaining this in greater detail.

In the mean time, I think we on the secular left have to do a better job at charity, lest the religious right use this data to brag about their moral superiority.Well, I prefer to help directly. I'm trying to get one friend out of the ghetto and keeping on him to do well in classes so that he can get an effective income outside of drug-smuggling, I've been counselling a teen in repairing his relationship with his parents so that he won't have to report abuse and end up in a foster home, my life partner sometimes helps acquaintances who find themselves in sudden debt with bills and rent, I have at times acted as regular transportation for a person in the area who doesn't have a vehicle and has back problems, but hey, that's not charity, so it couldn't possibly count toward my morality. The only charity I ever intend to give to is the welfare state because it's helping to pay for my education, and that does count toward my moral-o-meter, no matter how the fundie scum will insist the converse. I imagine most leftists figure as much, and I wouldn't imagine most atheists trust the charities anymore than I do.