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Johnny Skeptic
March 13, 2007, 12:08 PM
I believe that the earth is old. Some Christians, mostly fundamentalist Christians, believe that the earth is only about 6,000 years old, and believe it or not, that dinosaurs did not predate humans. The ICR says that dating methods are wrong. What about it, folks?

Sven
March 13, 2007, 12:29 PM
Which kind of responses are you expecting? How about a bit more clear?

fast
March 13, 2007, 12:32 PM
Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. The universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old.

dhillcrest
March 13, 2007, 08:05 PM
Religeon has a fantastic habit of dismissing radio isotope dating. If they ever found a very large boat on top of a hill and could date it to Noahs time they'd be in a bit of a quandry. And there are plenty of 'religious' relics that have been dated to biblical times that they are quite happy to accept.

The idea of a 6000 yr old earth is ridiculous. The only reason that anyone would suggest it would be to churlishly deny scientists the time for geology, cosmology and evolution to happen. Creationism is nothing more than christians pretending to be scientific because, deep down, they know science make sense. Trouble is, they backed the wrong horse.

fromdownunder
March 13, 2007, 09:45 PM
I believe that the earth is old. Some Christians, mostly fundamentalist Christians, believe that the earth is only about 6,000 years old, and believe it or not, that dinosaurs did not predate humans. The ICR says that dating methods are wrong. What about it, folks?

The perfect word of God as transmitted through that perfect work, the Bible, and calculated by Bishop Ussher, tell us that the earth was created on 23 October on 4004 BCE, making it around 6,010 years old as we speak.

Since the Bishop was inspired by God in his work, other heathens who claim other dates, eras and epochs, are destined to burn in Hell forever, for lying about the One Truth.

How can there be any argument about this? The Bible tells us so.

Norm

Joe Meert
March 13, 2007, 10:03 PM
4.5 billion, case closed, slam dunk end of rational discussion.

Cheers

Joe Meert

sunsettommy
March 13, 2007, 10:31 PM
Earth is approximately 4.54 billion years old. The universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old.


How did you arrive at the age of the universe?

Newton's Cat
March 14, 2007, 02:59 AM
The universe is approximately 13.7 billion years old.

Local events within the part of the universe that is observable by us may be of this "age" - but what we can observe is a mere miniscule part of the totality - which is several orders of magnitude older.

It is probably the case that mankind will NEVER be able to figure it all out.

Boro Nut
March 14, 2007, 08:40 AM
....that dinosaurs did not predate humans...

It's one thing to suggest we lived together. It's quite another to suggest that we lived together, but they never once tried to eat us.

Boro Nut

Sven
March 14, 2007, 10:22 AM
How did you arrive at the age of the universe?
Wilkinson Microwave Anisotropy Probe

Scifinerdgrl
March 14, 2007, 10:36 AM
It's middle-aged.

patchy
March 14, 2007, 10:41 AM
It's 4.5 billion years young! Yay!

Straight Hate
March 14, 2007, 02:52 PM
I believe that the earth is old. Some Christians, mostly fundamentalist Christians, believe that the earth is only about 6,000 years old, and believe it or not, that dinosaurs did not predate humans. The ICR says that dating methods are wrong. What about it, folks?

Which dating methods?

Carbon?
Strontium-Rubidum?
Uranium?

I suppose people could be forgiven for questioning the 4.6 GA age of the Earth, but how do YEC explain other factors like the very evident 200-million-year seafloor spreading in the Atalntic ocean which is observable and correlated by more than one means?

Taking a couple of geology courses at school has really opened my eyes to the wealth of evidence that actually exists. Slam-dunk for science.

ninewands
March 14, 2007, 03:24 PM
I believe that the earth is old. Some Christians, mostly fundamentalist Christians, believe that the earth is only about 6,000 years old, and believe it or not, that dinosaurs did not predate humans. The ICR says that dating methods are wrong. What about it, folks?
The ICR is full of crap (that's the politest way I can think of to say it). The Earth is somewhere around 4.65 billion years old ... hell ... we've got more than 6,000 years worth of tree-ring data ... never mind lake varves and ice layer data.

Now, as to the dinosaurs. To steal an old creationist debate tactic ... if dinosaurs and humans lived at the same time why have we NEVER found any human fossils in the strata in which dinosaur fossils are found?

fast
March 14, 2007, 06:19 PM
How did you arrive at the age of the universe?

By standing on the shoulders of others.

Anyway, it's the commonly accepted measurement.

A link (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_universe)

Local events within the part of the universe that is observable by us may be of this "age" - but what we can observe is a mere miniscule part of the totality - which is several orders of magnitude older.

It is probably the case that mankind will NEVER be able to figure it all out.

No argument from me there.

Corona688
March 14, 2007, 06:47 PM
Religeon has a fantastic habit of dismissing radio isotope dating. If they ever found a very large boat on top of a hill and could date it to Noahs time they'd be in a bit of a quandry. And there are plenty of 'religious' relics that have been dated to biblical times that they are quite happy to accept. Ooh, ooh, which? It'd be a riot if they inadvertently "falsified" something vital.

Dime-a-Dozen
March 16, 2007, 07:03 AM
I believe that the earth is old. Some Christians, mostly fundamentalist Christians, believe that the earth is only about 6,000 years old, and believe it or not, that dinosaurs did not predate humans. The ICR says that dating methods are wrong. What about it, folks?

Well, when do you think the end will come for Earth?

I don't know, and who knows how accurate the estimates are? But, I think there may be quite a few more years to enjoy the Olympics, Democratic Votes, etc.

anthrosciguy
March 16, 2007, 01:21 PM
The correct answer to the OP title is that old punchline: compared to who?

nogods4me
March 16, 2007, 02:09 PM
The correct answer to the OP title is that old punchline: compared to who?

Young, compared to Zsa Zsa Gabor....

EvolvedAndygal
March 16, 2007, 08:03 PM
I believe the Earth is 4.5 billion years old. The universe is something like 20 billion years old last I heard, could be misremembering the date.

Creation "science" is not science at all, it is psuedoscientific nonsense.

fromdownunder
March 17, 2007, 12:57 AM
It's 4.5 billion years young! Yay!

(to be sung by a sexy blode, in a huskyish, drunken voice with a hint of a lisp)

Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday to you
Happy Birthday Mr Earthy....
Happy Birthdayy... toooo....youuuuu.

Norm