Is Belief in Christianity needed or just Christ!

[Mr. Logic]

It is amazing how many Believers have a problem with those who believe in the harmony of scripture over traditions that can't be proven in scripture,and can be traced back to later centuries.
Any thoughts on this?

[AthenaAwakened]

Davidson Loehr ponders the same question here (http://www.austinuu.org/sermons/2005/2005-10-23-LiberalReligionPartIII.html).

[ksen]

It is amazing how many Believers have a problem with those who believe in the harmony of scripture over traditions that can't be proven in scripture,and can be traced back to later centuries.
Any thoughts on this?

What do you mean by "belief in Christianity?"

[Mr. Logic]

Davidson Loehr ponders the same question here (http://www.austinuu.org/sermons/2005/2005-10-23-LiberalReligionPartIII.html).

Thanks AA I wrote an e mail to them, about how cultures have indeed blended with what is written. To gain Pagan Converts, a Pagan ritual of dip and chant was added to the interp. of the Great Commission, since there is no mention of water there.
Also many ref. books such as Encyclopedia Britanica, and Simon and Shuster show that the 3 name dip wasn't practiced until the Christian/Pagan mix happened in the 2nd century. Mary was exhaulted as a replacement for their Goddess, etc. That is why Mother Theresa once stated that "Jesus died to give us his Mother"! Mary is only mentioned 13 times, and no such exhaltation is ever given to her. I guess that the RCC believes that Mary becoming John's Mother at the time of Jesus' death means that She is Mother to all Believers, but he didn't say this to Peter or anyone else.

Anyway, thanks again!

[Mr. Logic]

What do you mean by "belief in Christianity?"

Well, that's the question isn't it? Scriture tells us to believe in Christ. "There is no other name under heaven and earth by which a man might be saved", right? Acts 4:12
This is logical, yet most "Christian" Leaders claim that this same Peter in Acts 2:38 stated that a dip in water using that NAME remits sins!
So is it a belief in that name or a dip using the name that remits sins?

This is but one example where the Christian Leaders have talked out of both sides of their mouth, and think it's o.k. as long as everyone goes along with this double talk.
The truth is that both verses are saying the same thing but using diff. words. The word baptism we have been blinded into thinking means dipped in water, when the word is used alone. I turned a Greek scholar around on this, and believe me he came out swinging to defend his "Christian" spoon fed beliefs. Rituals were for the Transgressors just as they law was. The law is for those who need it, and Paul says that they are Murderers, Thiefs, etc.
1 Tim.1 and yet again "Christian Leaders" ignore the text. Who teaches this truth? Even those who claim "Grace by faith" add "but the law is there too"! Again, more double minded teachings. If the law was there how could we be under grace? Jesus FULFILLED the law, did he not! If you fulfill a shopping list do you keep shopping?

Our faith is to be in Logic, God's Logic. That is what the Word of God means, Logos! God's Logos, not ours. God's ways are logical for he is logic!
Logic doesn't contradict. That is why I have no faith in "Christianity".

I also don't have faith in The Bible (a Catholic doctrine a few hundred years after the death of the Apostles). I do believe in Holy Scripture, but the scriptures are plural.
Hope this helps! You truly can't understand what I am saying unless you give yourself over to the truth and harmony of scripture. Few are willing just like the rich man. Jesus didn't ask for some, he asked for all our hearts and minds to believe him not religious leaders and their endless theology, mostly denominational bias.
The majority of Christians are ignorant to the scriptures, but they are many and so think that they are right! The kingdom of God is not a democracy, however! Blessings

[Magdlyn]

Mary becoming John's Mother at the time of Jesus' death means that She is Mother to all Believers, but he didn't say this to Peter or anyone else.



She didn't become "John's" mother, acc to scripture. She was put in the care of the unnamed Beloved Disciple.

And yes, for goodness' sake, we need a goddess. An all male Trinity is terribly lopsided and unnatural. Of course the Marys (mother and consort) were exalted.

[Mr. Logic]

She didn't become "John's" mother, acc to scripture. She was put in the care of the unnamed Beloved Disciple.

And yes, for goodness' sake, we need a goddess. An all male Trinity is terribly lopsided and unnatural. Of course the Marys (mother and consort) were exalted.

Woman was created equal according to a careful view of the evidence. It was the fall that changed that. How could Eve (Woman's) punishment be to be accountable to her husband if she alrady was?
Many say that God didn't buy into Adam's arguement, about Eve tempting him, but it wasn't a total excuse, but it does have some merit, at least God thought so. The Serpents punishment was the worse, then Eve's then Adam's.
Paul taught psychology almost 2,000 years before it bacame a science, but he dropped the ball on Man being over women because of senority, as he claimed. in the book of Cor. I was shocked to see Paul claim this when the O.T. showed that it wasn't true, then I realized that Paul was prob. giving his opinion there, and guess what? He was, turns out!

Our society is as screwed up and brainwashed as any on earth. If you want to talk unbalanced, tell me what they call it when a woman can stop a beating heart, becasue she has rights, but the Father has no say, and if the Woman decides to have the child, again he has no say but must pay for 18 years! Our society calls it Equal Right! <s> Not unless one can't think for themselves, or they are a woman with a bias toward men!
Real justice is like truth! Not popular!
Thanks

[WWJD4aKlondikeBar]

It's funny to read about the bullshit origin of Kwanza and how it was founded by a rapist. What's even funnier is to read about the more obscure origin(s) of Christmas and how, by comparison, it makes Kwanza look like the more credible holiday.