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general_koffi
May 18, 2008, 12:34 PM
In the past, unidentified assailants have planted bombs at the entrances of Internet cafes, accusing them in printed statements of allowing customers to view pornographic Web sites.

Link (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1210668667110)

What kind of society cheapens human life to such an extent that it becomes acceptable to kill people for looking at pornography?

And people wonder why I support Israel.

Hyndis
May 18, 2008, 12:41 PM
Life is even cheaper than that in Islamic societies.

If a female relative is even accused of even seeing another man, even in a completely nonsexual way, its okay to kill her.

"Honor" killings are complete crap, though they're just one of many things that piss me off about the barbarism that takes place in Islamic societies.

The torture and execution of people suspected to be homosexuality is another.



While I have a low opinion of religion in general, barbaric religions such as Islam are at the bottom of the barrel, even below Scientology, IMO.

_Naturalist_
May 18, 2008, 01:09 PM
While I have a low opinion of religion in general, barbaric religions such as Islam are at the bottom of the barrel, even below Scientology, IMO.
Such religions have always been dangerous, but whatever good they might have done in the past, it's time to get rid of them all. Adults who are convinced that gods, angels and magic exist. People who worship gods and use them as excuses to obey rules that can only be described as barbaric. If we're going to mature as a species, religion must go.

Moridin
May 18, 2008, 01:15 PM
In the past, unidentified assailants have planted bombs at the entrances of Internet cafes, accusing them in printed statements of allowing customers to view pornographic Web sites.

Link (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1210668667110)

What kind of society cheapens human life to such an extent that it becomes acceptable to kill people for looking at pornography?

And people wonder why I support Israel.

So you support the ethnic cleansing of Arabs? A totalitarian regime where people are denied basic human rights? A new Berlin Wall? How hypocritical of you.

pete
May 18, 2008, 01:20 PM
If we're going to mature as a species, religion must go.

I agree... but getting rid of it would require a more oppressive government than the religion itself.... so it looks like we are stuck with it..

If anything.. Islam is getting stronger as politicians fall over themselves to 'understand' muslim resentment.

Stinger
May 18, 2008, 01:28 PM
Link (http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1210668667110)

What kind of society cheapens human life to such an extent that it becomes acceptable to kill people for looking at pornography?

And people wonder why I support Israel.

So you support the ethnic cleansing of Arabs? A totalitarian regime where people are denied basic human rights? A new Berlin Wall? How hypocritical of you. How in the world does attacking wacky groups who would plant bombs at Internet cafes advocating ethnic cleansing???! Are you saying that we should be supporting these groups?

Moridin
May 18, 2008, 01:51 PM
So you support the ethnic cleansing of Arabs? A totalitarian regime where people are denied basic human rights? A new Berlin Wall? How hypocritical of you. How in the world does attacking wacky groups who would plant bombs at Internet cafes advocating ethnic cleansing???! Are you saying that we should be supporting these groups?

The comment was directed to the last sentence of the OP.

_Naturalist_
May 18, 2008, 01:52 PM
If we're going to mature as a species, religion must go.

I agree... but getting rid of it would require a more oppressive government than the religion itself.... so it looks like we are stuck with it..

If anything.. Islam is getting stronger as politicians fall over themselves to 'understand' muslim resentment.
Better education and protecting children from indoctrination could be a good start.

Stinger
May 18, 2008, 02:09 PM
How in the world does attacking wacky groups who would plant bombs at Internet cafes advocating ethnic cleansing???! Are you saying that we should be supporting these groups?

The comment was directed to the last sentence of the OP. Supporting Israel is equal to arab ethnic cleansing?? To want to have a peaceful Israeli state on 3% of the mid east is equal to killing all arabs? I support Israel also. I also support any peaceful arab state. Am I a murder?

Hyndis
May 18, 2008, 02:09 PM
How in the world does attacking wacky groups who would plant bombs at Internet cafes advocating ethnic cleansing???! Are you saying that we should be supporting these groups?

The comment was directed to the last sentence of the OP.

Israel is not ethnically cleansing Arab populations. They've been under almost continual siege since their founding, and at this point I don't blame them for building a wall for protection. Israel is trying to keep to itself and keep itself safe. Arab nations were the ones that repeatedly tried to wipe Israel off the map.

TheRealityOfMan
May 18, 2008, 06:42 PM
Israel is not a totalitarian state.

The disgusting 'honour' system in many Muslim societies makes me despair. Israeli society is more moral than this that is an objective fact as far as I can see... and that has nothing to do with the politics of road map/settlements etc.