DNA explodes Greek myth about women

[Potoooooooo]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2008/jun/01/genetics.sciencenews?gusrc=rss&\1feed=science
Women in Ancient Greece were major power brokers in their own right, researchers have discovered, and often played key roles in running affairs of state. Until now it was thought they were treated little better than servants.

The discovery is part of an investigation by Manchester researchers into the founders of Mycenae, Europe's first great city-state and capital of King Agamemnon's domains.

'It was thought that in those days women were rated as little more than chattels in Ancient Greece,' said Professor Terry Brown, of the faculty of life sciences at Manchester University. 'Our work now suggests that notion is wrong.'

[pete]

Look out..... I think its gonna explode !!!

'Our work now suggests that notion is wrong.'
Oh...ok..

[Lógos Sokratikós]

Gentle reminder:
Mycenae (or Mykenai) is not all Greece.

[premjan]

You mean it included bits of Turkey.

[Vampyroteuthis]

You mean it included bits of Turkey.

That sounds yummy!

[Lógos Sokratikós]

You mean it included bits of Turkey.

No. I meant "Greece" signifies a geographical area of certain magnitude spanning millennia, several completely independent states and widely differing cultures. One thing is to talk about Mykenai, another to talk about Athenai and yet another to talk about Sparta, to mention just a few. Oh, that reminds me −Spartaaaaa! Sorry, it's just the wild seminaked bloodthirsty hollywood personage in me. :D

[premjan]

You mean it included bits of Turkey.
That sounds yummy!
Some got smoked in the Trojan war though.
Why dropping a thanksgiving platter causes international incidents: downfall of grease (Greece), overthrow of turkey (Turkey) and destruction of china (China).

[Vampyroteuthis]

That sounds yummy!
Some got smoked in the Trojan war though.
Why dropping a thanksgiving platter causes international incidents: downfall of grease (Greece), overthrow of turkey (Turkey) and destruction of china (China).

:rolling:

[Yggdrasill]

That sounds yummy!
Some got smoked in the Trojan war though.
Why dropping a thanksgiving platter causes international incidents: downfall of grease (Greece), overthrow of turkey (Turkey) and destruction of china (China).And then everyone would become hungry (Hungary)!

[figuer]

Stupid article...pretentious archeologists making silly claims, trying to get their names into history books.

What is so rare about a royal woman being buried in jewels besides her brother?

It is clear from Greek legends that royal women excerted great power and had authority. It is even evident that royal descent in some instances came through the female line.

[premjan]

Didn't Menelaus inherit his kingdom from his wife - Helen?

[WCH]

Yeah, the actual finding here is underwhelming... someone's sister received a royal burial. So? We don't know what kind of power she actually had.

'The problem has been that up until recently our interpretation of life in Ancient Greece has been the work of a previous generations of archaeologists, then a male-oriented profession and who interpreted their findings in a male-oriented way. That is changing now and women in Ancient Greece are being seen in a new light.'
:rolleyes:

[ashaktur]

Yeah, the actual finding here is underwhelming... someone's sister received a royal burial. So? We don't know what kind of power she actually had.

'The problem has been that up until recently our interpretation of life in Ancient Greece has been the work of a previous generations of archaeologists, then a male-oriented profession and who interpreted their findings in a male-oriented way. That is changing now and women in Ancient Greece are being seen in a new light.'
:rolleyes:

Next thing you know it will turn out that it was Alexandra the Great.

[DBT]

Gentle reminder:
Mycenae (or Mykenai) is not all Greece.

Where did the word 'Greece' originate from anyway? It's not a Hellenic term.

[makerowner]

Gentle reminder:
Mycenae (or Mykenai) is not all Greece.

Where did the word 'Greece' originate from anyway? It's not a Hellenic term.

It is a Hellenic term, but it didn't refer to Greece as a whole. It comes from the town Graia in Boeotia, which for some reason the Romans applied to all Greeks. (In the same way that Europeans once called all Muslims 'Moors', and Muslims once called all Europeans 'Franks'.)

[DBT]

Thanks. I've occasionally wondered where it came from, but didn't bother to search. I have asked some Greeks, but they didn't know.

[yalla]

I always wondered why the people who came from Holland, also known as the Netherlands were called Dutch.
3 names for the same people/place.
So I asked some Dutch friends.
They didn't know.
I believe that The Netherlands comes from being a colony of the Spanish at one time and being a long way away, as in Nether [far] lands, the Dutch is a corruption of Deutsche referring to the Germanic language and Holland .....
But I could believe wrongly.

Just a passing thought.

[figuer]

I always wondered why the people who came from Holland, also known as the Netherlands were called Dutch....the Dutch is a corruption of Deutsche referring to the Germanic language... Dutch is not a corruption of Deutsche, it is the particular form the term takes in the Netherlands. I believe that The Netherlands comes from being a colony of the Spanish at one time and being a long way away...Strange theory, and it was never a 'colony', they simply shared the same hereditary ruler... Does not Netherlands simply mean 'lowlands'?