One Small idea about ID and Cretinism

[dangin]

OK, with the group of you science types around here. (You've intimidated me so that I don't come to this forum much anymore) I was wondering if the "freethinking", pro science,(real science) people could come up with a new name for Creationism/ID.

ID is an attempt on our adversaries part to spif up creationism which was getting a bad name for itself, even among the general population and media.

If a unified name could be decided on, and enough real scientists started referring to ID with this new name, it could stick and filter out to the media. A suggestion:

Nontestable, faith based, pseudo-scientific sounding gibberish.

But it's too wordy.

Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?

[simian]

UCUAEC

Unstate Creator, Unstated Age, Earth Creationism
(paralleling the YEC/OEC structure)

The best I can come up with at the minute. This doen't roll off the tongue, but does state what I see in that group of creationists.

Simian

[Starboy]

How about religion, or does that have a bad name also?

Starboy

[ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Starboy ]</p>

[Peez]

[quote]dangin:
OK, with the group of you science types around here. (You've intimidated me so that I don't come to this forum much anymore)<hr></blockquote>Aaaaaak! Do not be intimidated by the "science types"! Very often it is the non-scientist types who formulate the best asnwers to creationist crap. [quote]I was wondering if the "freethinking", pro science,(real science) people could come up with a new name for Creationism/ID...

Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?<hr></blockquote>How about "crap"?

:)
Peez

[Tom Sawyer]

How about:

&lt;clamps hands over ears&gt;
LALALALALA! I don't want to listen to reason! LALALALALA!
&lt;/clamps hands over ears&gt;

[Duvenoy]

[quote] &lt;clamps hands over ears&gt;
LALALALALA! I don't want to listen to reason! LALALALALA!
&lt;/clamps hands over ears&gt;

<hr></blockquote>

Huh?

doov

[Captn Kidd]

How about "Invisible Designer".

It implies the somewhat silly notion of an invisible object running through everything micromanaging it all, yet somehow, we can't see it.

[RufusAtticus]

How about:

Fear of Naturalism Creationism

[mb]

By all means use "cretinism". That will impress everyone with the balance and reason of the anti-ID position.

[Duvenoy]

Hm. Lesse........

ID= Ignorance Derived, Internally Demonized, Into (the) Dark, Intellectually De-railed, Incorperated Dingbats, Interesting Delusions, and, oh hell, I dunno, maybe: Distressed Illuminati.

:D

doov

[ September 10, 2002: Message edited by: Duvenoy ]</p>

[RealityCheck]

Faith based biology.
Faith based natural history.

[Albion]

I don't particularly care what they call themselves as long as the word "creationism" is in there, because that's what they are.

[Zira_C]

dangin wrote
[quote] Can anyone get the same meaning in a svelt, rolling off the tongue phrase?<hr></blockquote>

How about “anti-explainist”, or “pro-mystifist”.

I’ve found that the problem YEC, OEC, YEID, or OEID, have with the theory of evolution is not the evolution part, it’s the theory part (the explanation). All they are doing is denying that an explanation has been given for the origin of man (or denying that the explanation given is sufficient to explain the origin of man).

Creation of man is the miracle that serves as their proof of God. The problem is that explanations destroy miracles (they can’t help it). Explain the miracle, and you destroy the miracle, destroy the miracle, and you destroy evidence of God.

[joz]

How about ID`ocy...

(By edit)

Pronounced Eed-dee-oh-sea...

[ September 13, 2002: Message edited by: joz ]</p>

[Oolon Colluphid]

How about 'Load of Bollocks'?

Oolon

[DMB]

[quote]Originally posted by RealityCheck:Faith based biology.
Faith based natural history.<hr></blockquote>

That's awesomely good!

[pangloss]

Originally posted by mb
By all means use "cretinism". That will impress everyone with the balance and reason of the anti-ID position.

Yes, just like "evilutionist" packs the pews...

Oh, wait - it actually does....

I forgot about the intellectual factor.

[Ponzi]

How about Imaginary Design?