Vampire religion

[Primal]

http://www.vampiretemple.com/tov.html

[Aquila ka Hecate]

Of course they're a 'secret society'-silly me to think that they would have opened their daft claims to rational inspection.

Reminds me of a pagan on a list I used to belong to.
Claims he'd talked to a vampire on the internet.
And almost in the same breath claimed to be a skeptic.

What's it with these people?The real worlsd not exciting enough for them?

[Primal]

It's an "existential crisis": Why does bad things happen to good people? Why does good things happen to bad people? If a chick turns me down, is it ok for me stalk her?

[andy_d]

The only really serious vampire literature i've read was linked to the Abrahamic tradition.

It attributed vampirism to Lillith, the first wife of Adam.

Not surprising, considering their whole aesthetic is drawn from Catholicism.

[mecca777]

I once talked to somebody who claimed to be a "psychic vampire". I asked what exactly that entailed, and he told me that he "fed", and I quote, "on negative emotions". In other words, he was an arsehole that people hated being around.

Some people shouldn't be permitted to buy White Wolf sourcebooks. I swear.

[Seraphim]

How is it that this thread have anything to do with Non-Abrahamic religions and teaching?

It is funny to see that people afraid of dying so much that they decided to de-evolve from Humans to become Leeches (which sucks blood as well). :D :D :D

[Grizzly]

I guess people who worship vampires would indeed be practicing a non-abrahamic religion. Discuss freely.

[Ab_Normal]

Originally posted by mecca777
I once talked to somebody who claimed to be a "psychic vampire". I asked what exactly that entailed, and he told me that he "fed", and I quote, "on negative emotions". In other words, he was an arsehole that people hated being around.

Some people shouldn't be permitted to buy White Wolf sourcebooks. I swear.

:notworthy :notworthy

[Seraphim]

I guess people who worship vampires would indeed be practicing a non-abrahamic religion. Discuss freely.

My reply : Not sure what good vampires get by practising any religion or teaching. Most of religion and teachings deals with acceptance of death, Vampires seems to deal with lack of that strenght of acceptance.

But then again, I don't see where else this thread could end up in. You right ... lets discuss freely.

[-RRH-]

Originally posted by Seraphim
Not sure what good vampires get by practising any religion or teaching. Most of religion and teachings deals with acceptance of death, Vampires seems to deal with lack of that strenght of acceptance.

Well I don't think there's a guarantee that everyone benefits from all religion all the time. http://www.horriblepain.com/images/face.gif

If I had to speculate (Which I certainly am.) I would guess it provides them a sense of superiority over others. The webpage has plenty of assurances that membership is restricted to those who are truly worthy. The criteria for worthiness probably differ from the criteria of society at large, meaning it provides members an opportunity to be complemented for traits that are usually demeaned.

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[Primal]

A lot of it seems to stem from aesthetic considerations. Perhaps they simply believe it because it sounds "cool." Why it sounds cool to them is the mystery.

[Aquila ka Hecate]

I just couldn't resist!This was sent to my (Secular Paganism) list by a pagan who just couldn't restrain her mirth either:

For those of you missing out on the latest in the wiccan wisdom soap opera (now showing on a screen near you)... This episode titled "Attack of the huge vampire fairies"...



"Namaste All,

as you can see by my heading, i am currently being bothered by some pesky Faeries. Now i can handle deeling with the Collective Faeries, who are tunneling in the four corners of mine humble abode, and i have accustomised myself to to dongs of the eightlegged weaver faeries, that seem to move from one rafter to the next, even overcomming my intense fear of weaver faeries, to let them be and not act on the urg to scream and squish.

I've even put up with those HUGE vampire faeries ( no im not scratching the old sore here) that seem to migrate through my window as soon as my candle is exstinguished. and attempt to carry me away for some gluttonous feast.

but nowi have two new faerie races to contend with.... both seem to steel into my room at night and derive great satisfaction from scaring the living moonshine out of me.

Lets introduce the first one... they nibble, anything they can get theor hands on andseem to find great joy in nesting in my wool, and material supplies, and the second... you do not see with the eye, unless you catch that moment....they are shadow crawlers.... apparently they would survive, armogedon x 2 and their ultimate goal would be achieved, domination of the planet.

now my problem is... i do not want to use adverse substancese to rid my humble dweling of these beautiful in their own right, creatures.... but please help.... i've asked i've pleaseded i've even resorted to moving into the BIG house.... but I WANT MY ROOM BACK....any suggestions....for humainly, evironmentally, and Karmically asking them to find another residence.

Namaste

Naillij"


NOte: I've recently left the list this tasty morsel came from, as I was beginning to grow really angry.
Why does 'pagan' imply 'loony' in most people?

[Supergirl]

First thought that pops into my head - scary to think that normal (biologically) people can have the mental capacity of animals.

I say animals, because the mental capacity have obviously not evolved beyond that of rodents.

But I prob think this way because I can not see beyond my nose to the "possibillities" that are out there.

[-RRH-]

Originally posted by Supergirl
I say animals, because the mental capacity have obviously not evolved beyond that of rodents.

But I prob think this way because I can not see beyond my nose to the "possibillities" that are out there.

A person who is criticized for being gullible will be the first to trumpet the virtues of being open-minded. It's a way of coping with heavy criticism.

Something ain't quite right with the person who is under attack by vampire faeries, but it's a little harsh to compare him/her to a rodent. But it is always interesting to see two people feeling superior to one another over the same difference.

[Supergirl]

Yeah, not good to say rodent. How must they feel :D

It is not that I see them (people who believe that faeries can eat them or that Vampires suck their energy" as "below" me. Nothing is. It is just a fact that we are not all rich, thin or intelligent.

If someone says "You are fat, join weigh-less or something" or "Geez, can you really not afford to spend a couple of bucks on this or that, let me show you how to mange your finances better", it is acceptable.

But if you tell someone "maybe you should stimulate the grey masses, because you are loosing it" they get upset, because you are seen as "thinking that you are superior".

[seesaw]

Vampies... :eek:

[frostymama]

sounds like that person needs to call the Orkin man. I hate to break it to them, but around here we don't call them faeries.

Lets introduce the first one... they nibble, anything they can get theor hands on andseem to find great joy in nesting in my wool, and material supplies,

umm... mice?

and the second... you do not see with the eye, unless you catch that moment....they are shadow crawlers.... apparently they would survive, armogedon x 2 and their ultimate goal would be achieved, domination of the planet.

around here we call those roaches.

[andy_d]

Er, yes, and the "weaver faeries" are spiders.

Nobody thought it was serious, did they? :rolleyes: It was a joke.

[Primal]

Evidence?

To me it seems they are quite serious and its not like belief in vampirism is unheard of.

[gsx1138]

There is a faerie cult in my neck of the woods. Yeah, they're loony but they don't bother anyone and are generally nice. However, they take the existence of Faeries very seriously.
As for vampires, I had a revelation of sorts and maybe I'm just far behind the curve. In my Anatomy class we were shown a slide of someone who had third stage Sypholis (sp, hey I'm not a pathologist). Almost all of the persons facial features mirrored that of the classic vampire image. The teeth degraded into sharp points and the person sex drive went through the roof. Of course by that time they were so damn ugly no one would want to have sex with them. I believe the vampire myth was propogated by this VD. Just my thoughts...

[andy_d]

Originally posted by Primal
Evidence?

To me it seems they are quite serious and its not like belief in vampirism is unheard of.

I meant the article about "faeries" was obviously a joke.

It seems the "vampires" take themselves altogether TOO seriously! :D

[trientalis]

Another possible origin of the vampire myth may be found in the disease called porphyria.

Check this out (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000B1BEF-C051-1DF8-9733809EC588EEDF&pageNumber=1&catID=4)

and this one (http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?articleID=000B4130-5C6C-1DF7-9733809EC588EEDF)

[miss djax]

i didn't know vampires liked bath salts and essential oil bath salts...

who knew vampires had a gift shop? ;)

with a discount for members no less ;)

http://www.artisticdevil.com/shop/discounts.htm

[miss djax]

i didn't know vampires liked bath salts and essential oil bath salts...

who knew vampires had a gift shop? ;)

with a discount for members no less ;)

http://www.artisticdevil.com/shop/discounts.htm

[Infidelettante]

Originally posted by andy_d
Not surprising, considering their whole aesthetic is drawn from Catholicism.

I never thought of that. Transubstantiation. The wine into the
blood of Christ. The vampires are squarely in the Judeo-
Christian tradition. So are the Satanists, who merely substitute
one Christian god for another. If we keep this going we can
pin every thing on the Christians.

JT

[Primal]

i didn't know vampires liked bath salts and essential oil bath salts...

who knew vampires had a gift shop?

with a discount for members no less

Yeah I know, I'm actually aware of some people who consider themselves "vegan vampires"...however that works.

I'm on a vampire religion email list right now. Weird/cultist stuff. They actually adress the group as "The Family" and detest outsiders for trying to destroy such a "great thing they have found."

[capsaicin67]

I'm actually aware of some people who consider themselves "vegan vampires"...however that works.

Ketchup......?;)

[URL=http://www.klsdesign.com/anti-ox/news_articles/018.html]

It's a long ways from immortality, but I guess it's a start......

[Arikay]

I was thinking it was an interesting but ok religion till I got to this part and just had to laugh:

"ONE LIFE - ONE CHANCE
Mortal life is swift and short. You have this one chance to ask to join us as a member of the Religion of the Rulers, a Vampire, an immortal master of the earth, or be lost to the winds of time.
The choice is yours. "

Is it just me, or does it sound like an infomercial?

"Hurry now and buy your supper chopper slicer 2000 now, because this awesome deal will be up when the clock is out."

:D

[MediocreDeity]

Referring to site listed in the original post...

Did anyone notice that in one breath they're talking about how elite membership to their religion is... and in the next they're sending you over to their gift shop, where you'll notice the only requirement for membership is to purchase it, along with their bible?

Once you've spent your money to become one of the "elite", there are still plenty of other products to purchase. Of course, some cannot be purchased until you've hit the right "level."

Gee, I wonder what they'll have you do to attain these "levels?" Most likely something they'll be making money from.

Sounds to me like this is nothing more than a money making scam that preys on the thoroughly screwed up.

Of course, what religion isn't? :banghead:

[Valmorian]

Originally posted by MediocreDeity
Sounds to me like this is nothing more than a money making scam that preys on the thoroughly screwed up.


*Gasp!* Vampires!!

[happyboy]

i have one question: are the vampires of this cult setites, or do you figure they're a toreador front? or perhaps the tremere are behind this.....

happyboy, glad he's found some use for his white wolf collection

[nermal]

Those guys are selling a sterling silver ring in their gift shop. Don't vampires hate silver? I know, werewolves hate silver, but I read somewhere vampires hate silver too.

Ed

[villainess]

Originally posted by mecca777
I once talked to somebody who claimed to be a "psychic vampire". I asked what exactly that entailed, and he told me that he "fed", and I quote, "on negative emotions". In other words, he was an arsehole that people hated being around.


Yeah.... the belief in "psychic vampires" seems to be quite wide-spread among some of my acquaintances who are less, shall we say, given to rigorous thinking and self-examination.

Apparently the recommended way to prevent attack by a "psychic vampire" is to avoid eye contact and keep your arms and/or legs crossed when speaking with them. In other words, use body language and facial expression to make it clear that you're not going to get involved in the emotional world of people who thrive on melodrama! It really works - too bad for the believers that there's absolutely nothing supernatural about it....

the_villainess

[Maimonides]

There is a faerie cult in my neck of the woods. Yeah, they're loony but they don't bother anyone and are generally nice. However, they take the existence of Faeries very seriously.
As for vampires, I had a revelation of sorts and maybe I'm just far behind the curve. In my Anatomy class we were shown a slide of someone who had third stage Sypholis (sp, hey I'm not a pathologist). Almost all of the persons facial features mirrored that of the classic vampire image. The teeth degraded into sharp points and the person sex drive went through the roof. Of course by that time they were so damn ugly no one would want to have sex with them. I believe the vampire myth was propogated by this VD. Just my thoughts...

Good point, although vampire myths in Europe predate syphilis. Probably also fueled by rabies (hence the bat/biting link), tuberculosis (exhumed tuberculosis victims known to have blood around mouth), and don't forget the Plague of mid-1300's in Europe... corpses exhumed much later showed scratch marks on underside of coffin lids... oops. Check this link out:

http://www.religionnewsblog.com/10155

Guess Dracula never died. :devil3:

[edain55337]

Anyone else notice the small print on the bottom?

Within lies fact and fancy, truth and metaphor. Discriminate with care.

Figure it's more fancy then fact.... :)

[Karalora]

Yeah.... the belief in "psychic vampires" seems to be quite wide-spread among some of my acquaintances who are less, shall we say, given to rigorous thinking and self-examination.

Not everyone who uses the term "psychic vampire" is a head-in-the-clouds New-Age type. Some of us use it quite prosaically to describe a person who is just mentally/emotionally exhausting to be around. Despite the flaky connotation of the words "psychic" and "vampire", they do describe very well what goes on with these people--they seem to suck the mental/emotional energy right out of you.

[Crucifiction]

Not everyone who uses the term "psychic vampire" is a head-in-the-clouds New-Age type. Some of us use it quite prosaically to describe a person who is just mentally/emotionally exhausting to be around. Despite the flaky connotation of the words "psychic" and "vampire", they do describe very well what goes on with these people--they seem to suck the mental/emotional energy right out of you.

Somewhat OT--

This is what Satanists mean when they refer to "psychic vampires"; vampires in the sense that they drain your mind, and/or try to rob your ideas.

[premjan]

Somewhat OT--

This is what Satanists mean when they refer to "psychic vampires"; vampires in the sense that they drain your mind, and/or try to rob your ideas.
Yes, very true. There are people that try to rob your self-confidence. these are the worst kinds of people.

[Uncle Ants]

Not everyone who uses the term "psychic vampire" is a head-in-the-clouds New-Age type. Some of us use it quite prosaically to describe a person who is just mentally/emotionally exhausting to be around. Despite the flaky connotation of the words "psychic" and "vampire", they do describe very well what goes on with these people--they seem to suck the mental/emotional energy right out of you.

In my neck of the woods such people are called a "Pain in the Arse".

[Karalora]

In my neck of the woods such people are called a "Pain in the Arse".

Also appropriate, but too all-encompassing.

[Killer Mike]

It never ceases to amaze me how the superstitious mind works. I mean even as a child I knew vampires were no more real then the tooth fairy. Its like the peope who get all bent out of shape over the childrens books Harry Potter. I thought scientology was wacky enough. But people who worship vampires and psychic vampires!! Are you sure this is not some National Enquirer article :rolling: Perhaps we should call the Psychic Vampire hotline :Cheeky:

[Stella]

It never ceases to amaze me how the superstitious mind works. I mean even as a child I knew vampires were no more real then the tooth fairy.


I didn't! I used to have bad sleep paralysis hallucinations, and the very first one I had convinced me beyond any doubt that they existed!

I was only 9 though. I can't be held responsible for being so dumb.

I'd love to see this bible though!

I bet there are lots of fashion tips, helpful tips on how not to drool with the plastic fangs in...How to accessorize with a pirate shirt. How to maintain a youthful and convincing pallor.