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fried beef sandwich
August 15, 2003, 10:42 PM
So I was cleaning out my closet full of old sermon notes, etc... There was a bunch of handouts from my Christian Life class, a class that I had to take before I was baptized in 1994...

One of the little side notes in one of the handouts was the question: "What does the Bible have to say about the existence of aliens and life on other planets?"

Answer:We can safely conclude that there is no life on other planets. The reason why is because of Jesus' saving work. The Bible says that Jesus' work on the cross was sufficient and complete. If there was life on other planets, then he would have to go to each planet and die again and again! But since Jesus only died once, we can conclude that there is no other life in the universe worth saving. I"m serious. This is for real. And it's not a little reflection that I came up with myself, it was actually taught to us by one of the assistant pastors.

What a hoot! :D

sakrilege
August 16, 2003, 05:20 AM
And when life is found on other planets, some enterprising apologist will find the bible verses necessary to account for the alien life and how jesus's 'sacrifice' will be sufficient for this new alien life. Much like heliocentrism was once a heresy.

sakrilege
August 16, 2003, 06:13 AM
Just thought of another possibility, I imagine a group like the Creation Science folks who will try to prove 'scientifically' that the aliens are the spawn of Satan.

BigBadShrubbery
August 16, 2003, 09:46 AM
And how, exactly, do they know Jesus died only once?

B. H. Manners
August 16, 2003, 08:03 PM
What would be real neat is if the aliens were 10,000 years more technologically advanced than we are, and that they have copies of tapes showing their leaders being coronated or swore into office back before Sumer was even founded!

Santas little helper
August 17, 2003, 12:57 AM
We can safely conclude that there is no life on other planets. The reason why is because of
Jesus' saving work. The Bible says that Jesus' work on the cross was
sufficient and complete. If there was life on other planets, then he would
have to go to each planet and die again and again! But since Jesus only died
once, we can conclude that there is no other life in the universe worth
saving.

It's scarry how stupid this is.
1. The first sentence says that there is no life on other planets.The last
says that there is no life worth saving .Big difference !

2. Even if there was life worth saving why would Jesus have to visit each planet ?
Couldn't it be that it is up to us humans to spread God's word to the rest of intelligent
species ? I mean after all Jesus didn't visit every human civilization separately.He
relied on the Apostles to spread the word.
This is why I find the quote so disconcerting.Personally I have no emotional need to
consider humans special.But my guess is that many Christians ( and perhaps nonChristians
too ) have such a need.So here is an unparallel oportunity to satisfy this need.Yes, there
are several intelligent species spread around the galaxy but Jesus only visited us
and it is up to us to spread the word.What could possibly make us humans more special ?
And what a brilliant future would lie ahead for certain lucky Christians.Every God fearing
kid could spend countless hours daydreaming that he or she could be a future missionary
travelling to far away stars spreading God's word to intelligent octopuses.Think how many
books, fiction and nonfiction alike, could be written on the subject.Probably serials too
on Christian channels.
Yet, the author of the quote throws all this to the garbage without even a single quote
from the Bible specifically stating that there is no intelligent life elsewhere.

Lunacy, absolute lunacy :banghead:

drmatik
August 18, 2003, 07:27 PM
To come to a conclusion, you must have a string of facts and arguments to support your thesis, yet the author of this completely ommits this.

Also, his first sentence starts with a conclusion, this is like starting from the end. Then ends his thought with another conclusion... Obviously the writer does not know how to organise his thoughts in a rational way.

Like Santas little helper points out, the author seems to have deliberately concocted this whole analogy to convince the dogmatic and naive students of the impossibility on life elsewhere in the univers, dismissing all scientific point of views.

Godless Wonder
August 18, 2003, 08:23 PM
I know someone, a Christian (yeah, I know "Christian" is not very specific is it?) who believes there are probably aliens out there. I asked her if Jesus had to go around all the time dying on crosses all around the universe. She had no problem with that. God has all the time that there is, if he needs more time, he just makes it.

Wyz_sub10
August 18, 2003, 11:56 PM
Originally posted by Godless Wonder
I asked her if Jesus had to go around all the time dying on crosses all around the universe. She had no problem with that. God has all the time that there is, if he needs more time, he just makes it.

Well, Jesus has a crap job it seems.

I guess it's not such a big sacrifice for god to give "his only begotten son" if he does it over and over and over...

God: "Okay son, you know the drill."

Jesus: "But dad, I'm soooo tired of this."

God: "Wa wa wa...cry me a river. Now get down there. Why can't you be more like Job?"

Jesus: "Ooooh, Job puts up with boils, Job puts up with the death of his loved ones. Job's so great...blah blah blah."

God: "What was that?"

Jesus: "Ummm...Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"

God: "Damn straight."

Marduk
August 19, 2003, 11:46 AM
“The Bible says that Jesus' work on the cross was sufficient and complete. If there was life on other planets, then he would have to go to each planet and die again and again!”

Another bad assumption, didn’t Jesus have to die for our sins because some cave woman stole one of God’s magic apples or something? What if the alien Adam & Eves left the damn apple on the tree.
This is the Devil’s Planet I tell ya! That’s why the Aliens stay away from us. They know we are the only civilization to eat the apple! We are contaminated and quarantined to a remote part of the Galaxy!!!!!!