Donnmathan
August 22, 2003, 02:38 PM
Might shock you guys, but the fellow who wrote the paper about how the sun isn't a star (http://www.geocities.com/rebornempowered/thesun.htm) actually answered an email I sent him. The email's text is posted on this thread. (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=60986) I thought some of you might have been interested in his answer - the guy actually dropped one of his points when I linked him to and article that shot it down (of course, it didn't hurt that the article was on AiG).
His reply:1. Convection of Energy Up from the Core: The accepted view of how the Sun transports its energy from its central core outward to its surface is the mechanism dubbed "non stationary convection." The granules that are visible on the photosphere are claimed to be the tops of laminar columns that penetrate down toward the core. Supposedly, heat (energy) is smoothly transported outward from the core in this "convection zone" via these tubes. This convection process is said to take hundreds of thousands of years. But then, why do the "granules" change shape and even disappear in a period of hours? There are some additional problems with this idea.2. Temperature Minimum Below the Corona: Near the Sun's surface, its atmosphere is coolest - the photosphere - only about 6000 Kelvin. But then, as we go farther away from the photospheric surface, the temperature of the atmosphere first begins to rise smoothly and then abruptly jumps wildly to about 2 million Kelvin in the tenuous lower corona. If radiant energy is produced at the core and radiated at the tops of those convection columns, per the thermonuclear fusion model, this wide temperature leap is not easily explained - certainly not without reference to the electric phenomena that are obviously occurring.3. Acceleration of the Solar Wind Ions: The positive ions that are the main constituent of what mainstream astronomers euphemistically call the solar "wind" move faster and faster the farther away from the Sun they get. They accelerate! Nothing in the fusion model predicts nor explains this observed phenomenon. Any student of physics who has heard of electric charge and electric fields, knows that the easiest way to get electrically charged particles to accelerate is to apply an electric field to them. The acceleration of the positively charged solar "wind" particles is clearly an electrical phenomenon. It is accurately predicted by the Electric Sun model.
I know the convection argument is off, you just have to look at a thundercloud to see that, and I know some of the science behind it. Anyone know the rest?
(To the moderators - I know this is probably in the wrong place, and I am sorry, but the addressee was someone who was putting forth bad proof of creationism, so...)
His reply:1. Convection of Energy Up from the Core: The accepted view of how the Sun transports its energy from its central core outward to its surface is the mechanism dubbed "non stationary convection." The granules that are visible on the photosphere are claimed to be the tops of laminar columns that penetrate down toward the core. Supposedly, heat (energy) is smoothly transported outward from the core in this "convection zone" via these tubes. This convection process is said to take hundreds of thousands of years. But then, why do the "granules" change shape and even disappear in a period of hours? There are some additional problems with this idea.2. Temperature Minimum Below the Corona: Near the Sun's surface, its atmosphere is coolest - the photosphere - only about 6000 Kelvin. But then, as we go farther away from the photospheric surface, the temperature of the atmosphere first begins to rise smoothly and then abruptly jumps wildly to about 2 million Kelvin in the tenuous lower corona. If radiant energy is produced at the core and radiated at the tops of those convection columns, per the thermonuclear fusion model, this wide temperature leap is not easily explained - certainly not without reference to the electric phenomena that are obviously occurring.3. Acceleration of the Solar Wind Ions: The positive ions that are the main constituent of what mainstream astronomers euphemistically call the solar "wind" move faster and faster the farther away from the Sun they get. They accelerate! Nothing in the fusion model predicts nor explains this observed phenomenon. Any student of physics who has heard of electric charge and electric fields, knows that the easiest way to get electrically charged particles to accelerate is to apply an electric field to them. The acceleration of the positively charged solar "wind" particles is clearly an electrical phenomenon. It is accurately predicted by the Electric Sun model.
I know the convection argument is off, you just have to look at a thundercloud to see that, and I know some of the science behind it. Anyone know the rest?
(To the moderators - I know this is probably in the wrong place, and I am sorry, but the addressee was someone who was putting forth bad proof of creationism, so...)