Giants?

[spazz]

My friend was telling me that there have been giant skeletons found all over the world and armor and so on. I am extremely skeptical of this and could someone give some supposed evidence and/or articles discussing these giants (if in fact they exist).

[Dreaming Skin]

Is your friend an avid reader of Weekly World News?

[Arken]

There have been giant skeletons found all over the world, many with armor.

They are known as 'dinosaurs' and many had their own armor plating. They died out about 65 million years ago.

[BioBeing]

Not sure about the armour, but elephants skulls supposedly led to the giant Cyclops myths (the nose hole being thought to have been the eye).

[Kat_Somm_Faen]

Ahem...

Quite difficult just mentioning "giants" and nothing about size, location, age or whatever.

For example there were some quite tall skeletons ( more exactly mummies ) of both sexes found in the Chinese desert that still had their red-to-fair-blonde har. I think, IIRC, the guy was upwards of 6'2" or 6'4". I guess one can argue they were giant compared to todays population and even more so in their age, apparently.

If the case was something of above average skeletons - of course but what does she mean wiht "giants" - umm 12" or 4 meters or greater???

[Marduk]

These claims have been floating around since the 1920’s but no one has yet to put one out for examination.
There was a thread here a while ago on this, all sorts of claims of CIA cover-up etc.
Fundys claim the anti-Christian evil one world government wants to hush up proof that the Biblical Giants (Nephilim) were real. Others claim they want to cover up the fact these ‘Giants’ were from an alien race.
More down to Earth folks say they were part of the many early 20th century archaeological frauds made from cattle bones etc. Not unlike the Cardiff Giant scam.

I’ve heard about the 10-foot tall giant skeletons with red hair since I was a kid (1960's) and more recently on the Art Bell show. I've yet to see one in person.

[spazz]

What kind of repercussions would occur if somehow a "giant" was discovered? Also, my grandfather said before the earliest inhabitants came across the Bering Strait there was a caucasian race that lived here. He said it was on Art Bell and that guy has about the credibility of the hamburgerler but, again if anyone can come up with some credible articles I would be interested.

[Chiron]

Well, there was André the Giant. I mean, he had Giant built into his title -- and if you want to see how big he was, watch The Princess Bride (in the credits, I believe it lists him as just that: "André the Giant"). He had... giganticism? Something genetic that made him so huge. Unfortunately, IIRC, his heart wasn't strengthened accordingly, so he died, essentially, of a heart attack.
(Anyone have quick access to the hard facts to back up or correct my recollections?)

-Chiron

[Solanalos]

I am a giant to most at 6'10" 372lbs but you're most likely referring to the much larger AD&D style behemoths. The likelihood of real humanoid titans existing (or having existed) on Earth is equal to that of encountering the famed Abominable Snowman of the Himalayas in the Sahara.

[Godless Dave]

Originally posted by spazz
What kind of repercussions would occur if somehow a "giant" was discovered? Also, my grandfather said before the earliest inhabitants came across the Bering Strait there was a caucasian race that lived here. He said it was on Art Bell and that guy has about the credibility of the hamburgerler but, again if anyone can come up with some credible articles I would be interested.

Your grandfather (and Art Bell) are extrapolating based on one or two pieces of information. Some anthropologists found a skull in North American that was ~15 thousand years old and appeared to have features that were more Caucasian than American Indian. One possibility is that there were people with Caucasian features living in North America a long time ago. But that's only one possibility, and without more information we can't even make conclusions like that.

[Nialler]

Solanalos,

I'm prepared to defer to you in this or any other discussion!

[Roland98]

Originally posted by spazz
My friend was telling me that there have been giant skeletons found all over the world and armor and so on. I am extremely skeptical of this and could someone give some supposed evidence and/or articles discussing these giants (if in fact they exist).

I've seen this (http://www.burlingtonnews.net/hornedrace.html) alternatively given as evidence of aliens or giants ("nephilim").

Here may be another place to look around:

Return of the Nephilim (http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/PhotoAntediluvianGiant.html)

You may, or not, have heard that Mr. Samuel Hubbard, dicovered remains of giants in a cave in the magnificent Grand Canyon of Arizona. His discovery was very important:

He found 2 petrified human bodies about 15-18 feet tall respectively. One of these was buried under a recent rock fall which required several days' work to remove; the other, which Mr. Hubbard photographed, was in a difficult to access crevice. Both bodies were formed of a limestone petrification embedded in sandstone.

He also found an ancient beach, now sandstone, that contained a great number of footprints of an entire race of giants: men, women and children. The prints of the adults were between 17 and 20 inches long and corresponded in size and shape to the Carson City and Blue Ridge prints. With these prints are also associated those of a huge elephant, somewhat similar in size to the remains discovered in the La Brea pits –the Elephas Primigenius– as well as tracks of a very small horse, which probably corresponded to the "Pliohippus." This beach where all this was found was evidently occupied when the river was many hundreds of feet above its actual level. Some of the human prints wee partly covered by the overlying stratum of stone, which is gradually weathering off.

Lastly, he found wall drawings that showed dinosaurs, elephants, ostriches, and ibexes; as well as the same figure of the serpent with the egg in its mouth as it has been found in the Mississippi mounds, with numerous other drawings. One of the drawings showed an elephant attacking a man. If the drawing is to scale, and if the elephant corresponds to the La Brea animal, then the man must have been about 18 feet tall.
Even Darwinians have fond specimens so enormous that they have called : "Gigantanthropus" or "Gigantopithecus" (Scientists love those high-sounding names to impress you, and make you think that they know much more than they really do)

and another page:

More giant links (http://www.returnofthenephilim.com/GiantsInHistory.html)

I don't know anything about "armor."

Here (http://www.evcforum.net/ubb/Forum5/HTML/000282.html) is a link to a discussion on "giants" on another board.

Hope it helps!

[spazz]

What would be an alternative hypothesis to the skull found rather than there was a whole other race living here? Thanks in advance.

[Roland98]

Originally posted by spazz
What would be an alternative hypothesis to the skull found rather than there was a whole other race living here? Thanks in advance.

Which particular skull are you referring to?

[spazz]

The skull Godless Dave refers to.

[Solanalos]

Originally posted by Nialler
Solanalos,

I'm prepared to defer to you in this or any other discussion!

:D I should have mentioned that I'm a gentle giant; I release my aggression in the gym through powerlifting. (Your safe as long as you don't go spouting Fundy nonsense :))

[deano]

how much can you lift oh powerful overlord?

[spazz]

Mr friend sent me some links supporting his viewpoint. What can you guys make of these? Is ancient American reputable?
http://ancientamerican.com/ancestorfirstamgiant45.pdf
http://ancientamerican.com/incagiants34.pdf

[Godless Dave]

Originally posted by spazz
What would be an alternative hypothesis to the skull found rather than there was a whole other race living here? Thanks in advance.

Well there could have been a whole other "race" living here, but that doesn't mean they were here before the ancestors of American Indians crossed the Bering Strait. Those features could have evolved independently; they do not necessarily indicate a close kinship with Europeans. Australian Aborigines look a lot like Africans but they are very distant genetically. Or it could have come from an American Indian with abnormal facial features. Or maybe the populations that migrated to North American were more morphologically diverse than we thought, but people with American Indian features became so dominant that they assimilated the other populations.

Can an anthropologist help me out here before I put my foot in my mouth?

[Marduk]

Are we talking about Kenwick Man? I thought he was related to some Japanese offshoot, can't remember what they were called.

[RBH]

marduk askedAre we talking about Kenwick Man? I thought he was related to some Japanese offshoot, can't remember what they were called.
There is conjecture that Kennewick Man is related to the Ainu, an aboriginal group now confined to the northern tip of the Japanese Islands. AKAIK Kennewick Man is still tied up in legal hoorah associated with claims by several tribes, at one time even including the Asatru Folk Assembly - an association with purported neoNazi connections that claimed him as Viking kin under NAGRPA.

There's a brief background article here. (http://www.nas.org/publications/sci_newslist/7_1/d_kennewick_artic.htm)

RBH

[spazz]

I was just wondering if anyone checked out those ancient american links and can give any information about them.