The specialty of humanity.

[senor boogie woogie]

Hola!

There has been a lot of discussion between me and militant homosexuals on this forum. I am not "bending over" for them at all, but they fear me because I tell the truth and they just cannot accept it.

Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so. Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong. We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught. No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.

When a baby is born, what can that baby do? Breathe, pee, poop, and the desire to have his/her's hunger-thirst relieved. That's it. Everything else in a person's life is a CHOICE. The most intellegent beings by far (humanity) was born the stupidest beings of all. Human babies cannot do anything unless they are taught to do something. if humanity crawled on all fours, the baby would do the same thing, because it was taught that way by its parents and peers. babies see people walking, then they want to do it also. This is what we call a "natural progression" the desire to be better than we are now. All humans have "natural progression".

Hence, the homosexual movement. I want the gays to quit lying and bullshitting everyone and speak the truth. If you are gay, you CHOOSE the lifestyle. Do not tell me that you are born gay, because that's bullshit and a lie. The sad thing is that militants preach this and the regular mainstreem posts it as truth.

If homosexuality was inborn and not a choice, then there would be no bisexuals. Also, many gay men have children. OK, you say, the gay man was "in the closet" so to speak and was afraid to be open. Well, Gene Robinson enjoyed climaxing into his wife, because he has a daughter. So, it is safe to assume that Gene enjoyed the vagina of his wife. I am not gay, so why would I choose a man to cover my true feelings for women? Same with Gene! Ellen Degenerus had boyfriends, but she didn't like them and chose the company of women. Anne Heche chose to get out of the relationship she had with Ellen and is now dating men. Heche admitted to having problems with men due to her family background. If we look at lesbians as a whole, we would find that most came from shattered homes, or had to endure rape or other degredation. How many victims of Father Geoghan were told by psychologists that they are probably gay because of their attraction? I would say several.

Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child. A woman has breasts to feed a baby. This is nature. Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings. Period. I have heard about homosexual Sumatran monkies, but a monkey does not have the brain of a human being, a monkey cannot reason or think for himself, so it does not know any better. Humanists who claim that being gay is normal because a stupid horny monkey does it, demeans humanity, demeans you, your spouse and your children. We are better than this.

I do not mind being a lone voice in this. I have and will provide all kinds of information showing the vile nature of gays in society, ways for gays to get help from their illness. There is hope when all facts are revealed.

SENOR

[The Other Michael]

This appears to be addressing the biological basis of gender orientation, and so I'm moving it over to S&S.

Michael
MF&P Moderator (Maximus)

[Mullibok]

Why do you first praise humanity for being above animals, then condemn something that you say is "not natural". If we're above animals, why can't we choose to be unnatural? And there's a big big jump from unnatural to vile. I can't claim to know if homosexuality is a choice or not, never had the slightest inclination that way myself, but the bile you're spitting is just ridiculous.

And who says monkeys can't think for themselves? Humans have succesfully manage to teach them language, even though they haven't evolved the ability to speak it they can sure as heck use sign language if taught. Can you honestly say you've never seen any stories about this?

Am I just wasting my time with a troll? :banghead:

[Ab_Normal]

Well, sbw, I just sat here and tried to choose to be homosexual, but I'm still not attracted to people of my gender. Sorry.

[Demigawd]

Originally posted by Mullibok
Am I just wasting my time with a troll? :banghead:

I hope he is in fact a troll because his assertions, if he believes them himself, demonstrate an incredible arrogance and ignorance.

I mean, animals *don't* feel pain? Therapists telling molestation victims that they might be gay because a priest raped them? How in the world did you come to those conclusions, SBW?

[Roland98]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie


There has been a lot of discussion between me and militant homosexuals on this forum. I am not "bending over" for them at all, but they fear me because I tell the truth and they just cannot accept it.

Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so. Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong. We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught. No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.

You're kidding, right? Many animals can do all these things. Heck, even crows can do simple math. We're nothing special, sorry.

When a baby is born, what can that baby do? Breathe, pee, poop, and the desire to have his/her's hunger-thirst relieved. That's it. Everything else in a person's life is a CHOICE. The most intellegent beings by far (humanity) was born the stupidest beings of all. Human babies cannot do anything unless they are taught to do something. if humanity crawled on all fours, the baby would do the same thing, because it was taught that way by its parents and peers. babies see people walking, then they want to do it also. This is what we call a "natural progression" the desire to be better than we are now. All humans have "natural progression".

Huh? You think babies walk because of "a desire to be better" than they are when they crawled?

Hence, the homosexual movement.

How you got from A to B is a mystery to me.

I want the gays to quit lying and bullshitting everyone and speak the truth. If you are gay, you CHOOSE the lifestyle. Do not tell me that you are born gay, because that's bullshit and a lie. The sad thing is that militants preach this and the regular mainstreem posts it as truth.

:rolleyes: It's posted as "truth" because essentially every conclusion leads to this.

If homosexuality was inborn and not a choice, then there would be no bisexuals.

Really? You think sexuality is that black-and-white?

Also, many gay men have children. OK, you say, the gay man was "in the closet" so to speak and was afraid to be open. Well, Gene Robinson enjoyed climaxing into his wife, because he has a daughter. So, it is safe to assume that Gene enjoyed the vagina of his wife.

How do you know he wasn't fantasizing about a man? The mind is a powerful thing.

I am not gay, so why would I choose a man to cover my true feelings for women?

huh? Many homosexuals get married to those of the opposite sex because that's the "socially acceptable" thing to do, and because some try very hard to fight their orientation. Almost universally, it doesn't work, and they end up miserable.

Same with Gene! Ellen Degenerus had boyfriends, but she didn't like them and chose the company of women.

And again, having a boyfriend is the norm, what was expected of her. Why is this odd to you? Someone tells a woman, "you like guys." So she tries for many years to be attracted to men; and finally realizes it ain't gonna happen.

Anne Heche chose to get out of the relationship she had with Ellen and is now dating men.

Yes, as I mentioned, I don't see sexuality as black and white; rather, more of an inverted bell curve.

Heche admitted to having problems with men due to her family background. If we look at lesbians as a whole, we would find that most came from shattered homes, or had to endure rape or other degredation. How many victims of Father Geoghan were told by psychologists that they are probably gay because of their attraction? I would say several.

Ah, bring out the stereotypes. I don't know a single lesbian who was molested as a child (or came from a "shattered home.") This is akin to the atheist sterotype of having distant fathers or tragedy in early life. Both are BS.

Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child.

Sure. But they also provide pleasure. Since I'm done having kids, should I not use mine any more??? Because the latter reason is the only one I have right now.

A woman has breasts to feed a baby. This is nature.

Yep--so?

Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings. Period. I have heard about homosexual Sumatran monkies, but a monkey does not have the brain of a human being, a monkey cannot reason or think for himself, so it does not know any better. Humanists who claim that being gay is normal because a stupid horny monkey does it, demeans humanity, demeans you, your spouse and your children. We are better than this.

If you make the "unnatural" argument, then you must accept that homosexuality does indeed occur elsewhere IN NATURE. And actually monkeys can do quite a few of those things; the only real thing that differentiates them from us as far as sexual orientation is that they lack a book that tells them homosexuality is wrong.

I do not mind being a lone voice in this.

Good, because I have a feeling not many others will jump into your sinking ship.

I have and will provide all kinds of information showing the vile nature of gays in society, ways for gays to get help from their illness. There is hope when all facts are revealed.

You think you're going to help gays "get help from their illness" after you've just dissed their "vile nature?" Not a formula for success from this angle. And perhaps, since you lay claim to unrevealed "facts," you'd like to share them rather than your abrasive opinions?

[Vandrare]

sbw - haven't pretty much ALL your arguments already been refuted on other posts?! i'm not hearing any new, or any more convincing arguments other than ones already disproven to my satisfaction!

[Friar Bellows]

Originally posted by Mullibok
Why do you first praise humanity for being above animals, then condemn something that you say is "not natural".

I'm glad I wasn't the only one to notice that contradiction.

Originally posted by Roland98
We're nothing special, sorry.

Really? What other species of animal has gone to the moon? Or invented a highly accurate model of the atom? Or understood how it evolved to its current state over millions of years? Or built machines which travel faster than the speed of sound? Clearly, there is something special about homo sapiens, at least as far as Planet Earth is concerned.

[Calzaer]

The specialty of humanity.

I can come up with two, in no particular order:

Information Recording and Retention
Killing Shit

[Quantum Ninja]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think,can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.


You do realize everything you said there was unsubstantiated, right? How do you know an animal can't feel pain or feel love or think?

And is "specialness" determined by something's unique abilities? If so, I can think of a few abilities we lack that others species possess. So they are clearly special, too. Or do their abilities not count?

[senor boogie woogie]

Nothing I have ever stated has ever been refuted. I have been refuted for not being politically correct only.

I only state the obvious and that scares others who like to build smokescreens to make their cases more tolerable and reasonable to the masses.

Think of me as the REALITY PREACHER!

AMEN

[The Lone Ranger]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie:

Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain.
Um, no offense is intended, but by this logic, elephants are NOT ANIMALS either, due to their unique trunks.


No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.
Despite my best efforts, I can't pick up a peanut with my nose. Nor can I draw water into my nose and squirt it onto my back. Heck, I can't even manage to grow 6-foot incisors.

I feel so, so -- common!


If homosexuality was inborn and not a choice, then there would be no bisexuals.
This is a non sequitur. If one can be born homosexual, it does not follow that one cannot be born bisexual.

For that matter, it's true that a trait can be inborn and yet not genetically determined. For example, maternal effects (http://www.mindfully.org/Pesticide/Gerbil-Sex-Ratios.htm) have been thoroughly documented in reptiles, birds, and mammals -- there's intriguing evidence that they can be important in humans, too.

For the sake of argument, let us suppose that there's a region of the "X" chromosome (women have 2; men have only 1) which, when "activated" by the proper hormones causes the fetus' brain to develop in such a way that the adult person will be attracted to males. Let us further suppose that there's a region on the "Y" chromosome (men have 1; women have 0) which, when activated by hormonal exposure, causes the fetus' brain to develop in such a way that the adult person will be attracted to females.

Hormones in the mother's uterus are known to influence the early development of her offspring. (Read up on hyenas for an extreme example.) Furthermore, various environmental factors can influence the hormone levels in a mother's blood (and hence, in her uterus). In the above hypothetical example, a male whose "Y" was never activated because of unusual fluctuations in maternal hormones could grow up to be attracted to men only. If the "Y" was only partially activated, the male might grow up being attracted to both men and women.

In other words, the person's sexuality could be 100% inborn, yet not genetically determined.



Heche admitted to having problems with men due to her family background. If we look at lesbians as a whole, we would find that most came from shattered homes, or had to endure rape or other degredation.
One data point does not establish a trend. I'm unaware of any studies establishing that lesbians are more likely to come from shattered homes, etc.


Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child. A woman has breasts to feed a baby. This is nature. Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings. Period.
This is the naturalistic fallacy (http://www.cuyamaca.net/bruce.thompson/Fallacies/naturalistic.asp). Even if a thing is "unnatural," that does not imply that it's immoral.

Cheers,

Michael

[catalyst]

Nothing I have ever stated has ever been refuted

If you truly believe this, there is no point is responding to any of your posts, as you have clearly ignored many posts, some within this very thread.

[Solanalos]

senor boogie woogie, why are you so emotionally attatched to this issue? Why do you care what other consenting adults do with their lives? I don't get it:confused:

[Kalkin]

Nothing I have ever stated has ever been refuted. I have been refuted for not being politically correct only.

I only state the obvious and that scares others who like to build smokescreens to make their cases more tolerable and reasonable to the masses.

Think of me as the REALITY PREACHER!

AMEN

LOL!

:D

I don't have much to add, since others on this thread have in fact refuted your arguments without merely attacking your political incorrectness... in fact, your belief "Nothing [you] have ever stated has ever been refuted" would make you more an anti-reality preacher in my view...

Seriously, people are supposed to "choose" to be gay? Wtf? Since when did people "choose" their tastes in anything, let alone sexuality? I would prefer it if I didn't like chocolate, and instead liked, say, tofu. But, I can't help it. And, why the hell would anyone choose to be gay with so many people like you around?:banghead:

[pariah]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
[B]Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so. Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong. We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught. No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.

Wrong. Since when are there absolutes?

[Lobstrosity]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child. A woman has breasts to feed a baby. This is nature. Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings.
That's a pretty dumb thing to say considering that homosexuality clearly arises naturally all throughout the animal kingdom, of which humanity is just a subset. Just out of curiosity, have you ever used a condom? Have you ever had sex with a woman who was taking birth control pills or with whom you weren't attempting to father a child? Have you ever masturbated? I guess all of these acts would be considered grossly unnatural and thus, as a clear consequence, highly immoral, huh? As such, I just have to know why on Earth you are railing against homosexuality alone. You need to understand that your true message is directed equally at anyone who has sex while not attempting to have a baby, even if he's married.

What you need to explain is the following: if sex is enjoyable and we have brains enough to understand this and take advantage of it, what's the problem? How does this harm anyone? We have discovered a way to entertain ourselves in our spare time without negatively impacting our reproduction rate in the process. How is it you can have a problem with this? Here, let me name a few other things that are unnatural and thus you are also forced to view as evil: cars
airplanes
video games
computers
western medicine
twinkies (and most of the other food you eat)
body art (pierced ears, lipstick, mascara, tattoos, etc)
perfume and deodorant
voyages into space
These are just as "unnatural" as using the sexual organs for pleasure as opposed to procreation. Have you ever ridden on a roller coaster? If so, you're an evil sinner, for you have used an unnatural mechanism to force your body into an unnatural yet pleasurable release of adrenaline. At any rate, obviously you are not a hypocrite, so as such I eagerly await your upcoming anti-automobile thread. God gave us legs, damnit--if we want to move from place to place we should use our legs as God intended, not these new-fangled unnatural cars! The purpose of legs is not to push gas pedals!

A few other comments: I know for a fact that I could never be sexually aroused by a member of the same sex. It just ain't gonna happen, sorry. Yes, I have a brain and I can choose whom I will sleep with, but I cannot choose what's going to sexually excite me. I can't say "I'm going to find this person to be the most sexually attractive individual on the planet now" and then make it happen. I have no doubt that sexual attraction is not a matter of choice but a matter of biology and neurochemistry. If you're a guy and you discover that another guy sexually excites you, well that's just who you naturally are. Go with it and have fun. We're humans. We can enjoy things. Life isn't just stimulus-response for us. We don't live solely to procreate and die. That's what's so stupid about your message--you say that we're not mere animals but beings that can think and experience life in some fantastic way and then you argue that we should act just like animals and nothing more by never doing anything "unnatural." Dude, make up your mind.

Lastly, it's awfully presumptuous of you to tell us what the "purpose" of the sexual organs are. All you have done is told us one purpose. You conveniently neglect the fact that there can be more than one. For example, I use my "sexual organ" to void waste from my body in the form of urine. There, look, two perfectly valid purposes...it's amazing! Can we try for three? How about the argument that another purpose is to provide a way for humans to form special kinds of emotional bonds? Obviously our sexual organs were "designed" to provide pleasure when pleasure need have nothing to do with making a baby.* Female orgasms are not required for procreation and yet women experience them. As such it seems mighty clear that one perfectly valid purpose of our sexual organs is PLEASURE and there is nothing intrinsically wrong with utilizing them for this purpose. I think it's highly arrogant of you to proclaim what their "purpose" is when you seem to have no clue.


* We're humans, not animals, right? Isn't that your argument? We don't need instincts or pleasure to procreate because we can just choose to do it, just like we can choose to find a given person attractive whenever we want, right? Either the pleasure is there because it's one "purpose" of our sexual organs or it's there as an instinctual incentive to mate, which puts us on par with mere unintelligent, instinct-driven animals. Looks like you're between a rock and a hard place with this one.

[markfiend]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Humans are NOT ANIMALS.
:rolleyes: What do you think we are then? Plants? Fungi? Bacteria?

[Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Hola!

Word up, yo.

There has been a lot of discussion between me and militant homosexuals on this forum. I am not "bending over" for them at all, but they fear me because I tell the truth and they just cannot accept it.

How is it that you know the truth? Are you gay yourself?

Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so.

So does a dolphins brain.

Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong.

No--this is a taught behaviour, not instinctive. You can easily teach a child that stealing is a good thing, and they will see no problem with it.

We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught.

No, we decided that these are wrong, because if we say they aren't, it hurts us.

No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this,

Humans come up with better ways to steal, to kill, and to rape.
How many animals systematically hunt their own species? Answer: ONLY HUMANS.

only humans can think, can rationalize, to love,

Never owned a dog, I see.

to feel pain,

Smack a dog, see if it yelps.

to do math,

What, calculus? Most people can't do math other than basic addition and subtraction--hell, and even then they screw up a lot.

to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.

Enumerate them, please. Don't say use tools, since chimps do that.

When a baby is born, what can that baby do? Breathe, pee, poop, and the desire to have his/her's hunger-thirst relieved. That's it. Everything else in a person's life is a CHOICE.

Is it? Do I choose to feel pain instead of orgasmic pleasure when I'm cut? Did I choose to speak? Did I choose to learn to reason?

The most intellegent beings by far (humanity) was born the stupidest beings of all.

You're mistaking ignorance for intelligence.

Human babies cannot do anything unless they are taught to do something.

They sure as hell aren't taught to cry--and boy, do they LOVE doing that.

if humanity crawled on all fours, the baby would do the same thing, because it was taught that way by its parents and peers. babies see people walking, then they want to do it also.

I'll keep this in mind for a bit later.

This is what we call a "natural progression" the desire to be better than we are now. All humans have "natural progression".

Nope, not all don't. I, for instance, am rather happy with where I am right now--in fact, I would rather regress to simpler times, like highschool--the world was less scary then because I knew less about it.

Hence, the homosexual movement. I want the gays to quit lying and bullshitting everyone and speak the truth. If you are gay, you CHOOSE the lifestyle.

Do you choose to love steak? Do you choose to like chocolate? Do you choose to love women with nice, round breasts instead of those small ones with real perky nipples? What about women with nice, bright blond hair? What about seeing two girls go down on each other? I sure as hell didn't decide any of these things--I found them out.

Do not tell me that you are born gay, because that's bullshit and a lie. The sad thing is that militants preach this and the regular mainstreem posts it as truth.

So wait--because you think we choose our desires (which is patently false), gays must choose to want to fuck men? Well, that is logical, but your premise is false.

If homosexuality was inborn and not a choice, then there would be no bisexuals.

I like steak and I like hamburger and I like bacon--none of which I chose to like. I hate asparagus--also not chosen. Where's the problem?

Also, many gay men have children. OK, you say, the gay man was "in the closet" so to speak and was afraid to be open. Well, Gene Robinson enjoyed climaxing into his wife, because he has a daughter.

So? People do what society tells them to--you made the point with babies and walking, didn't you?

So, it is safe to assume that Gene enjoyed the vagina of his wife.

Nope. I take gen eds, and I actually learn stuff, even though I hate the classes, hate the way its presented, and hate it being forced on me.

I am not gay, so why would I choose a man to cover my true feelings for women?

No pressure to. Some men do this though--I've seen one do it before.

Same with Gene! Ellen Degenerus had boyfriends, but she didn't like them and chose the company of women. Anne Heche chose to get out of the relationship she had with Ellen and is now dating men. Heche admitted to having problems with men due to her family background. If we look at lesbians as a whole, we would find that most came from shattered homes, or had to endure rape or other degredation.

On lovetalk, with Adam Carola and Dr Drew, the point was made that you can mess with a kids antenna, so to speak--but it doesn't always mean that this is the case.

How many victims of Father Geoghan were told by psychologists that they are probably gay because of their attraction? I would say several.

I agree that telling people that if you're attracted exclusively to members of the same sex that they are homosexual is a terrible wrong. Something should be done about it. :rolleyes:

Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child.

Explain infertility, and explain please why it feels so fucking good?

A woman has breasts to feed a baby.

And to be felt by men (or women) as a prelude to sex. They do get wetter if you try foreplay, you know.

This is nature. Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings. Period.

So, wanting to feel a woman's breasts is unnatural?

I have heard about homosexual Sumatran monkies, but a monkey does not have the brain of a human being, a monkey cannot reason or think for himself, so it does not know any better.

Wait--if animals don't choose to be gay, how is it that we do?

Humanists who claim that being gay is normal because a stupid horny monkey does it, demeans humanity, demeans you, your spouse and your children. We are better than this.

How on earth does it demean humanity? We see parallels all over the place.

I do not mind being a lone voice in this. I have and will provide all kinds of information showing the vile nature of gays in society, ways for gays to get help from their illness. There is hope when all facts are revealed.

Admit it--you want a nice, long, thick cock shoved up your ass. Why else would you care about what people do in the privacy of their own home?

[Godless Dave]

I’ve often pondered this question of choosing to engage in homosexual sex. I’ll admit to having all kinds of thoughts and fantasies when I was going through puberty. I think most of us do. Senor’s assertion seems to be that "gay" people are only different from straight people in choosing to indulge in these acts for pleasure. So I thought about it. Could I enjoy sex with another man? If I willed myself to kiss another man on the lips, letting his tongue inside my mouth as his stubble brushes against my cheek, would it awaken a dirty carnal desire that all of us have? Would the touch of his hand on my groin arouse me? Would the strangeness of it add excitement? Would I feel a never-before-felt urge to lift his shirt off and stroke his finely muscled back and hairy chest? Would we shed our clothes in carnal abandon, rubbing our organs against each other until both of us are hard? Would his lips around my penis feel at once familiar and exotic, bringing me to a climax both corrupted and heightened by guilt and confusion? Would I then let him turn me around and push me onto the bed, his body falling on top of mine, both of us writhing in ecstasy as he spreads my legs and introduces me to a new and forbidden pleasure?

Nah.

[Jesus Tap-Dancin' Christ]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Nothing I have ever stated has ever been refuted. I have been refuted for not being politically correct only.

No, you've been refuted for faulty logic and lack of evidence.

I only state the obvious

What? That wanting to have a tit wank is unnatural?

and that scares others who like to build smokescreens to make their cases more tolerable and reasonable to the masses.

:eek: :eek: :banghead: :banghead:

Think of me as the REALITY PREACHER!

I prefer my physics teachers for that.

[Calzaer]

Nothing I have ever stated has ever been refuted. I have been refuted for not being politically correct only.

Isn't this Senor Boogie Woogie guy in US custody already?

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg

[Chiron]

By the way, I have started a new thread (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=61463). sbw inspired me so much that I just had to speak out against another politically-correct, yet ever so wrong practice: writing with one's left hand.

-Chiron

[Roland98]

Originally posted by Calzaer
Isn't this Senor Boogie Woogie guy in US custody already?

http://www.welovetheiraqiinformationminister.com/images/07-minister.jpg

:notworthy:

[Roland98]

Originally posted by Roland98

We're nothing special, sorry.

Originally posted by Friar Bellows


Really? What other species of animal has gone to the moon? Or invented a highly accurate model of the atom? Or understood how it evolved to its current state over millions of years? Or built machines which travel faster than the speed of sound? Clearly, there is something special about homo sapiens, at least as far as Planet Earth is concerned.

I guess I don't see it that way. To me, "special" carries the connotation of "better" in some manner. I think all those things make humans unique as a species, but no more "special" than any of the other species who can do things that humans cannot.

As a side note, are the humans who have actually done the things you mentioned (fly to the moon, model the atom, etc.) more "special" than we more "ordinary" humans?

[Wounded King]

It seems fairly clear that the specialty of some humans is self delusion.

[Sol]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so. Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong. We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught. No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.

Special human indeed -

"Hola!

I had an acquantience (sic), a nice guy, who is doing 10 years in prison in Mississippi for a mistake. He was a former police officer.

He went to a birthday party of a friend one night, drove home drunk and had a wreck with a woman and drove her off the road. He panicked and ran off. The woman is crippled for life. So now, my friend is doing 10 years (he'll be free, or free and off parole in 2010) for committing a stupid act. Is my friend a criminal? No he is not.

I hit someone with a car about 10 years ago and never got caught. I was very drunk and went out and scored some crack cocaine. It was very late and I hit the guy. I saw nothing but his butt and legs. I popped him going at a low speed, maybe 15 miles per hour. My windshield was destroyed. I high tailed it out of there, and as I was getting home, another person was following me and tried to block my path. Fortunately, I got away, and the "hero" was too dumb to get my license plate number. I never heard about the guy I hit either. Running might have been "wrong" but the damage had been done and I did not want to go to prison.

My friend above was sane I was an insane crackhead. I'm now clean and living overseas with a beautiful wife with no problems. My friend gets to live in a cement box for the next ten years, his career gone, paying restitution for the rest of his life to a stranger. Oh well. Better him than I.

SENOR"

(Quoted from: Moral Foundations & Principles > People from all walks of life make wrong decisions)

[Boredom]

Originally posted by senor boogie woogie
Hola!

There has been a lot of discussion between me and militant homosexuals on this forum. I am not "bending over" for them at all, but they fear me because I tell the truth and they just cannot accept it.

Humans are NOT ANIMALS. Yes, we do eat, deficate and urinate like mammals, but what seperates us from lower animals is our brain. The human brain has the capacity to think, to reason, to evolve if we allow it to do so. Also engrained in our minds is the sense of right and wrong. We know that killing another human is wrong. We know stealing is wrong. We know that rape is wrong. Every soceity on earth knows that killing, stealing and raping are wrong, but people CHOOSE to accept these behaviors and will reap the poison if they are caught. No other animal on earth has the capacity to do this, only humans can think, can rationalize, to love, to feel pain, to do math, to do multiple of other things animals lack the power to do. So, we as humans are special.


[Mr. Rogers] You're special boys and girls. Don't ever forget that. Just because you shit and piss and fuck like animals doesn't make you one. Unless you become a dirty fag. Then you really aren't special. You become nothing more than a dirty faggoty animal. Just like those filthy gazelles. Did you know that all gazelles are filthy little faggots? Yes, they are. They reproduce through anal sex. Can you say that, boys and girls? "Anal Sex". Sure, I knew you could. [/Mr. Rodgers]


When a baby is born, what can that baby do? Breathe, pee, poop, and the desire to have his/her's hunger-thirst relieved. That's it. Everything else in a person's life is a CHOICE. The most intellegent beings by far (humanity) was born the stupidest beings of all. Human babies cannot do anything unless they are taught to do something. if humanity crawled on all fours, the baby would do the same thing, because it was taught that way by its parents and peers. babies see people walking, then they want to do it also. This is what we call a "natural progression" the desire to be better than we are now. All humans have "natural progression".


The Natural Progression is a small grey organ located just below and to the left of the spleen. Some people have a very small NP and are thus prone to becoming dirty queers.


Hence, the homosexual movement.


The Homesexual Movement is like a bowel movement. It ocurs when one's Natural Progression develops spasms due to a form of epilepsy.


I want the gays to quit lying and bullshitting everyone and speak the truth. If you are gay, you CHOOSE the lifestyle. Do not tell me that you are born gay, because that's bullshit and a lie. The sad thing is that militants preach this and the regular mainstreem posts it as truth.


I wouldn't worry about the militants. The Isrealis have become quite good at killing them with missle strikes.


If homosexuality was inborn and not a choice, then there would be no bisexuals. Also, many gay men have children.


As Mr. Rogers points out above this is accomplished through a little known form of reproduction via anal sex.



Our sexual organs have a purpose, to conceive a child. A woman has breasts to feed a baby.

And to make money in online porn.


This is nature. Anything out of this scope is UNNATURAL for human beings. Period. I have heard about homosexual Sumatran monkies,

[Mr. Rodgers] who are almost as bad as those goddamn gazelles boys and girls. Don't make Mr. Rodgers angry and be like a Sumatran Money boys and girls or he and Mr. McFeely might come to your house and bust a cap in your ass.[/Mr. Rogers]



I do not mind being a lone voice in this. I have and will provide all kinds of information showing the vile nature of gays in society, ways for gays to get help from their illness. There is hope when all facts are revealed.

SENOR

And when all facts are revealed the Lord Jesus will return on clouds of fire and brimstone and the evil queers will verily be smitten and smote and all that sort of thing. And Yeah, there will be much nashing of teeth and wailing and masturbating to online porn and such like.