My Argument Is Better Than Yours - Derailment # 1,290

[ShadowF0x]

Funny thing.... I see some Theist on here have posted over 2000 posts and been on these forums for a year or more. It is funny that after all this time they still offer no good arguements and in light of all the crushing arguements they receive they continue to repeat the same arguements thinking that saying it more than once will make it true.

Atleast they are tenacious....

[HelenM]

At least one of them even lives in the same state as you! :eek:

[wildernesse]

Originally posted by ShadowF0x
Funny thing.... I see some Theist on here have posted over 2000 posts and been on these forums for a year or more. It is funny that after all this time they still offer no good arguements and in light of all the crushing arguements they receive they continue to repeat the same arguements thinking that saying it more than once will make it true.

Atleast they are tenacious....

You get points for saying "some theist" instead of "theists". However, maybe those "crushing arguments" aren't as convincing to others who aren't already convinced of them--to which some theists could respond that continuing to repeat the same arguments over and over again doesn't make it true.

--tibac

[Magus55]

Originally posted by ShadowF0x
Funny thing.... I see some Theist on here have posted over 2000 posts and been on these forums for a year or more. It is funny that after all this time they still offer no good arguements and in light of all the crushing arguements they receive they continue to repeat the same arguements thinking that saying it more than once will make it true.

Atleast they are tenacious.... And you, with less than 30 posts, and being here less than 2 weeks still bring up the same pointless arguments to theists that we've been hearing for over a year.

[Goliath]

Hardly pointless, Magus. In my 14 years as an atheist, I have never recalled seeing a xian successfully refute a single argument brought forth by a single atheist.

Sincerely,

Goliath

(edited for clarity)

[Magus55]

Originally posted by Goliath
Hardly pointless, Magus. In my 14 years as an atheist, I have never seen a xian successfully refute a single argument brought forth by a single atheist.

Sincerely,

Goliath And i've never seen a single argument be brought up by an atheist that is worth wasting time to refute :p

[Goliath]

Originally posted by Magus55
And i've never seen a single argument be brought up by an atheist that is worth wasting time to refute :p

Irrelevant. That does not mean that said arguments are not important.

Sincerely,

Goliath

[Magus55]

Originally posted by Goliath
Irrelevant. That does not mean that said arguments are not important.

Sincerely,

Goliath Not important to me since 90% of the time they are a poor case of reading in context, or just a meaningless attempt at mocking theists.

[Goliath]

But you forget, Magus--as so many xians do--that you are not the center of the universe. Or, in other words, your opinion on an argument has little to no bearing on whether said argument is valid or important.

Sincerely,

Goliath

[Magus55]

Originally posted by Goliath
But you forget, Magus--as so many xians do--that you are not the center of the universe. Or, in other words, your opinion on an argument has little to no bearing on whether said argument is valid or important.

Sincerely,

Goliath You're right, sorry, i'm not the center of the universe, atheists are since they know the Christian God can't and doesn't exist. I forgot how big the atheist ego is... sorry.

[Goliath]

Originally posted by Magus55
You're right, sorry, i'm not the center of the universe, atheists are since they know the Christian God can't and doesn't exist. I forgot how big the atheist ego is... sorry.

Incorrect yet again. I have never claimed that no gods exist, and I am an atheist.

Sincerely,

Goliath

[Magus55]

Originally posted by Goliath
Incorrect yet again. I have never claimed that no gods exist, and I am an atheist.

Sincerely,

Goliath Surely you've claimed before that the Christian God can't exist though.

[Goliath]

Absolutely not! And I'll thank you to stop acting as the Great Freaking Prognosticator, pretending to know what I believe and what I don't.

I do not believe that any gods exist, and I do not believe that no gods exist. In other words, as soon as you start trying to sum up my position on the existence or nonexistence of gods by saying "you believe..." then you're wrong.

Sincerely,

Goliath

[davidm]

Originally posted by Magus55
You're right, sorry, i'm not the center of the universe, atheists are since they know the Christian God can't and doesn't exist. I forgot how big the atheist ego is... sorry.

It was Christians who, until relatively recently, believed that humans were literally at the center of the universe.

How does lacking a belief in God make one arrogant? Note "lacking a belief," not KNOWING that God does not exist.

If there is no God, humans are an incidental species on an unimportant planet on the outskirts of an average galaxy among billions of other galaxies. Lacking evidence to the contrary, I think this is probably true. How is that arrogant? It is the antithesis of arrogance.

[Goliath]

Well? How about it, Magus? Are you going to claim your title as the Great Prognosticator, or are you going to acknowledge that I do not believe that the xian god does not exist? (if the former, I think seebs has a great magician costume he can lend you, since he was the previous holder of the title :p ).

Sincerely,

Goliath

[seebs]

Originally posted by Goliath
Hardly pointless, Magus. In my 14 years as an atheist, I have never recalled seeing a xian successfully refute a single argument brought forth by a single atheist.


Hmm. You might have a look at my previous debate over in formal debates. I leave it to your judgment whether or not it's a real refutation.

My current take on it is that most arguments about EoG turn out with the affirmative arguments always losing, and the defense always winning, leaving the question precisely unanswered.

[winstonjen]

Originally posted by Magus55
Not important to me since 90% of the time they are a poor case of reading in context, or just a meaningless attempt at mocking theists.

You generalise like that and you expect respect?

Anyway, what is 30 years divided by an infinite amount? Essentially ZERO, which is what Jesus gave up.

[ShadowF0x]

Originally posted by Goliath
Incorrect yet again. I have never claimed that no gods exist, and I am an atheist.

Sincerely,

Goliath

So what your saying is that you don't "believe" that any gods exsist(the definition of atheism) or any supernatural powers. And then never litteraly claim that no god exsist because it is something that is essentialy unprovable. WAY TO COVER YOUR BASES!! :D

Also, Magus you still didn't prove anything with your comment about giving up eternal paradise to live on earth with hateful humans. Mainly because Jesus went right back to heaven. Pretty much a man who murders thousands of innocent children before they have a chance to sin, so that they may live in eternal paradise. But simotaneously he is dooming himself to eternal pain and suffering, which is a much bigger sacrifice than what Jesus is claimed to have done.

[Goliath]

Well, Magus? I'm still waiting.

Sincerely,

Goliath

[livius drusus]

This is a derailment of Christian Love & bravery (http://www.iidb.org/vbb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=67640). Given its personal nature and threadbare discussion material, I am keeping it locked.

Should anyone actually wish to formulate an statement worthy of an upper forum regarding who makes the best arguments (which strikes me as less than likely), then please feel free to do so in a new thread.

Thank you,
livius drusus
Moderator, GRD