II Stamp on a 5 Dollar Bill?

[Barefoot Bree]

I have in my hands a $5 bill, with the word "God" in "In God We Trust" scribbled out. It also has rubber-stamped on it,

No, "WE" don't. It's all
just superstition. II

Was this the work of an Internet Infidel? If so, I want to shake your hand, and ask for my own copy of that stamp.......

[The Bearded One]

The one in your hand is not my work, but I've been "defacing" my paper currency for about a year now. I just cross out the word "god" and write below the word "Darwin". I have no idea how many of these have gotten out of my corner of the country, but I keep doing it. Mostly just to show that gods have no place on our money.

-- The Bearded One

[Stacey Melissa]

Wow, that's a great idea! Now, if only I actually had some cash to modify...

[DISSIDENT AGGRESSOR]

Was this the work of an Internet Infidel? If so, I want to shake your hand, and ask for my own copy of that stamp.......


Hmmmmm......:)

[Krosis]

I'd be happy with "In God Some of Us Trust" ;)

-K

[Swishy McJackass]

If you see a bill with "God" scribbled out and "Ourselves" written underneath it, that would be my doing. :D

[Hazel-rah]

I go for the single stroke with a good, black Sharpie.

I have never received any "secularized" money, though I'd love to get some. We should start putting our screen names on them.

[Swishy McJackass]

Hmm... "In Swishy McJackass We Trust" has a nice ring to it.

[Hazel-rah]

Originally posted by Swishy McJackass
Hmm... "In Swishy McJackass We Trust" has a nice ring to it.
Oh, my. Beer out the nose, Swishy Mc.

[Cynical-Chick]

Originally posted by Hazel-rah
Oh, my. Beer out the nose, Swishy Mc.

Ouch. (Beer..gross)



Wish I could do it on the job. :( (cashier)


Well, hey, I work for a theater that has Passion on 5 screens... *perk*

[Hazel-rah]

Originally posted by Cynical-Chick
Ouch. (Beer..gross)
Gross in general or just out the nose? (And as a corollary, is anything not gross coming out your nose?)

Me, I consider it more a waste of good beer than gross.

Originally posted by Cynical-Chick
Wish I could do it on the job. :( (cashier)
Beer or defacing money?

Originally posted by Cynical-Chick
Well, hey, I work for a theater that has Passion on 5 screens... *perk*
I am so sorry. I think beer is the least you should be allowed to do on the job, under those circumstances.

[Cynical-Chick]

Beer bad; I can't get past the taste. (I've had Corona sans lime and Killian's from a keg). Haven't tried liquor yet.


I wish I could write something like that on the job, but of course I couldn't; I live in the damn Bible Belt.

[Arkus 02]

Just finished all the munny in my wallet. Drew the darwin fish on all of 'em. I'm gonna spend it in the cafeteria of my catholic high school too. :D

[Cynical-Chick]

Originally posted by Arkus 02
Just finished all the munny in my wallet. Drew the darwin fish on all of 'em. I'm gonna spend it in the cafeteria of my catholic high school too. :D


*thumbs up* Good boy. ;)

[Jet Black]

in the UK, defacing money is technically treason. I can't remember if British notes have any mention of God on them though, I don't think so. We have a nice picture of Darwin on the 10 pound note.

aah British money. PROPER money.

[Strelnieks]

I also deface my money by crossing out God with a thick, black marker. I don't replace God or put any other recognizable marks on the bill.

I don't spend many dollars, but when I do, its almost always on one of the military bases near here, where I go a few times per month. I would think in that isolated environment the chances would not be bad of quickly distributing that money to ALL corners of the US, since the soldiers come from everywhere.

'tis great fun!

Strel

[Barefoot Bree]

Originally posted by Strelnieks
I don't spend many dollars, but when I do, its almost always on one of the military bases near here, where I go a few times per month. I would think in that isolated environment the chances would not be bad of quickly distributing that money to ALL corners of the US, since the soldiers come from everywhere.

'tis great fun!

Strel

Actually, I seriously doubt the paper bills go much astray from that community. It's mostly recycled through the base bank and back to the commissary, stores, and individuals right there. It's not like people are sending cash through the mail.

But still, I like it!

[Strelnieks]

Originally posted by Barefoot Bree
Actually, I seriously doubt the paper bills go much astray from that community. It's mostly recycled through the base bank and back to the commissary, stores, and individuals right there. It's not like people are sending cash through the mail.

But still, I like it!

That might even make it better. It makes for a higher likelyhood that some person will encounter such a bill more than once.

Either way, I think I am hitting a good target audience.

I don't mark anything higher than a $20, by the way, because I don't want that kind of money refused.

Strel

[Hazel-rah]

Originally posted by Jet Black
in the UK, defacing money is technically treason. I can't remember if British notes have any mention of God on them though, I don't think so. We have a nice picture of Darwin on the 10 pound note.

aah British money. PROPER money.
Yeah, I seem to recall that defacing U.S. money is a federal crime. We had a thread on the subject lo these many months ago; someone posted a link to a website that had the lowdown on that.

I do it anyway. Bringing bootlegged gourmet beer over the state line into Georgia is a federal crime, too. Not that I'd ever do anything like, heavens, no.

Originally posted by Cynical-Chick
I wish I could write something like that on the job, but of course I couldn't; I live in the damn Bible Belt.
So do I. I sit and my desk and do it, anyway (free Sharpie). When someone asked what I'm doing, I just sigh as though I have the weight of the world on my back and say, "separating church and state."

[Kintaro]

When I visit the states sometime soon, I'll deface god and replace it with sex.

Note to self : I haven't got either, but at least the latter is real.

[AspenMama]

This thread seems to be soley advocating an illegal activity. I'm locking it.

--AspenMama, SL Moderator

[AspenMama]

Re-opened. Apparently this is all a bit sketchy. Carry on.

http://www.moneyfactory.com/document.cfm/18/104


Defacement of Currency

Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

Defacement of currency in such a way that it is made unfit for circulation comes under the jurisdiction of the United States Secret Service. Their mailing address is:

United States Secret Service
950 H Street, NW
Washington, DC 20223.

The United States Secret Service web address is http://www.secretservice.gov.

[Jamie_L]

You know, I see businesses marking bills all the time when they receive them from customers - especially $20's. I've never been quite sure why they do this. So, us infidels aren't the only ones marking up bills.

Jamie

[Viti]

Originally posted by Jamie_L
You know, I see businesses marking bills all the time when they receive them from customers - especially $20's. I've never been quite sure why they do this. So, us infidels aren't the only ones marking up bills.

Jamie

The marker is a special ink that changes colors if the bill is counterfeit.

[Rhaedas]

with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued

is the important line in the Treasury's rule. Any defacement of IGWT by myself is one I hope is reissued for years to come, until the point is made enough to change the 1950s screwup.

We want unIGWTed money to circulate! :D

[Jamie_L]

Originally posted by LadyShea
The marker is a special ink that changes colors if the bill is counterfeit.

Aha! New knowledge for the day. So, if anyone is worried about getting slapped for defacing currency, use one of those "counterfeit detection" pens to mark out the word "god". Then you can claim you were merely testing the veracity of the currency. :)

Jamie

[Face]

In general, writing on money doesn't fall under defacement unless you're crossing out '20' and writing '50' or something that might be considered fraud.

In general, though, scribbling other things on the bills is no worse than, say, crumpling up a bill or getting it dirty.

[AtheistSalmon]

deception dollars! (http://www.deceptiondollar.com/front/6/6front.htm) I am going to go the the local rubber stamp company and have some stamps designed with secular messages on them.

[clark]

Originally posted by LadyShea
The marker is a special ink that changes colors if the bill is counterfeit.

Those pens are a false sense of security and pretty worthless. James Randi got one and marked up all kinds of obviously fake dollars. Most of the dollars "marked" as legit, including things like "Mickey Mouse Dollars" from Disneyworld.

He did this after downing massive amounts of homeopathic sleeping pills, which basically are sugar pills with trace amounts of caffeine. Naive observers wondered why he didn't collapse :).

THOUGHTfully Yours,
Clark

[Cynical-Chick]

I also see things like www.wheresgeorge.com scribbled on bills
(not just singles), along with "$500," or something like that. So it's nothing new; the 'defacement' laws along these lines are not enforced.

[AspenMama]

Originally posted by Cynical-Chick
So it's nothing new; the 'defacement' laws along these lines are not enforced.
Not always. But I did read a story about a couple who was strongly warned to quit writing their pro-legalizing marijuana message.

[Face]

Originally posted by AspenMama
Not always. But I did read a story about a couple who was strongly warned to quit writing their pro-legalizing marijuana message.
It might largely depend on how you're circulating the currency. Most shopkeepers won't blink on recieving doodled-on money, but you wouldn't pay your friend's bail with it.

The rules are probably MUCH different in the US as opposed to where I or others are, too.

[Megatron]

If you see any with GOD marked through in black Sharpie (usually to the point that the word is completely obliterated) and a Z_A in the corner of the bill, yep that's me.

[Gawdawful]

Originally posted by Zero Angel
If you see any with GOD marked through in black Sharpie (usually to the point that the word is completely obliterated) and a Z_A in the corner of the bill, yep that's me. If the markout is purple, it's me.


Warren in Oklahoma

[KoopaFanatic]

Ooh! I'm claiming red sharpie with a K in the corner :)

[ratherGroggy]

Someone fluent with semi-advanced web designing languages should set up a system similar to www.wheresgeorge.com (http://www.wheresgeorge.com) that Cynical-Chick pointed out. The Secular Dollar!

I may have to find a custom stamps place, this sounds like it could be a little fun.

[The Bearded One]

Originally posted by Rhaedas
Any defacement of IGWT by myself is one I hope is reissued for years to come, until the point is made enough to change the 1950s screwup.

We want unIGWTed money to circulate! :D

That was exactly my thought. Spread the money; don't spread the god.

-- The Bearded One

[Cynical-Chick]

Originally posted by ratherGroggy
Someone fluent with semi-advanced web designing languages should set up a system similar to www.wheresgeorge.com (http://www.wheresgeorge.com) that Cynical-Chick pointed out. The Secular Dollar!

I may have to find a custom stamps place, this sounds like it could be a little fun.

Actually, I've seen one for the Euro. This one Finn has entered over 10K notes.:eek: The most active ones on there, however, are the Belgians.

[Krosis]

Originally posted by KoopaFanatic
Ooh! I'm claiming red sharpie with a K in the corner :)

Better make that a "KF".... KF.. ;)

-cheers

[Cynical-Chick]

I call "CC" in, I dunno, sharpie or glitter pen.

[auto-da-fe]

I'm calling blue with just the word "Mega" on it.

This is fun, we should really do this...

/starts to pull cash out of pocket

[Barefoot Bree]

Plain unadorned black for me, with BB in corner.

But I'm hanging on to the original $5 that started this thread, just for a souvineer.

Mr Barefoot handed it to me the other day saying "there's other people out there that feel the same way you do." I guess he's more or less a deist, and doesn't share my slightly rabid atheist tendencies.

I wonder if we could set up something here in II to track originators and sightings? Nah, too much organization. Just start a new thread or revive this one if you ever see one that somebody else has done.

Edited to add: rathergroggy (and anyone else), any office supply store or website should be able to set you up with the stamp of your choice.

And edited again: I'd still like to know who did the original stamp. Doesn't anybody here have a clue?

[ElectEngr]

I use a broad tip sharpie to mark over the entire IGWT. I try to follow the arc that the lettering takes on the bill.

There have been a few vending machines at work that don't tkae these bills


Maybe I need to start marking the bills "What's this 'WE' s[censored]-Kemosabie", in the margins

Later,
ElectEng

[Rhea]

I use a wiggly line to cross it out. So they know it was not a coincidence.

I don't think we need to set up a separate site, we could just use wheresgeorge - there is a place to write comments. Good enough for me!


My husband got our first "corrected" currency recently, it was very uplifting. About the same time we got one with the IGWT highlighted in yellow. As is proper, that was no match for the black sharpie. The Sharpie is mightier than the highlighter.


I sit and my desk and do it, anyway (free Sharpie). When someone asked what I'm doing, I just sigh as though I have the weight of the world on my back and say, "separating church and state."

Hazel rah: :notworthy :D !!

[ElectEngr]

In Texas, black Sharpies are refered to as Aggie Highlighters

Later,
ElectEngr

[Swishy McJackass]

In Texas, black Sharpies are refered to as Aggie Highlighters

:D That's a good one.

[DonnieDarko]

I'm calling "D.D." in the corner, with either red, green, blue or black ink. I actually did several of these today when I got paid, it might be fun if someone actually notices it and brings it up to me.

[rcressl]

Maybe something that would be kind of cool but not take too much work or organization would be to have someone make a web page with a list of how everyone's defacing their money? For example, for someone who'd cross out the God part of the phrase with a blue Sharpie and write 'abc' on the back we could make some kind of reference thing with that type of info on it.

Maybe we should also write 'iidb.org' on the money - or not.

[clark]

Originally posted by trustno1
Maybe something that would be kind of cool but not take too much work or organization would be to have someone make a web page with a list of how everyone's defacing their money? For example, for someone who'd cross out the God part of the phrase with a blue Sharpie and write 'abc' on the back we could make some kind of reference thing with that type of info on it.

Maybe we should also write 'iidb.org' on the money - or not.

Something like this should be done by individuals, not organizations. Please don't put iidb.org on money.

THOUGHTfully Yours,
Clark
II Public Relations Director

[Demosthenes]

I'm crossing out God and writing ourselves underneath it and Demosthenes on the note. I just marked my first $10 bill :D

[SecretAsianMan]

X'ed out God and put ourselves on top (for one dollar bills). Maybe S.A.M. or my name in chinese in the corner or margins.

I don't have anything larger than ones on me at the moment, but I think that's how I'll make mine for denoms up to ten - don't want to risk refusal for anything larger. (I'm only in high school, give me a break :) Money doesn't flow through these hands quickly.)

I think this could turn into a real movement if enough people get involved. [sigh, but no sarcasm] Perhaps in 50 years we'll finally have our corrected currency.

[rcressl]

Something like this should be done by individuals, not organizations. Please don't put iidb.org on money.

Yeah, I figured that I probably shouldn't, so I never did. :)

[Obey_Matthew_6_6]

Originally posted by ratherGroggy
Someone fluent with semi-advanced web designing languages should set up a system similar to www.wheresgeorge.com (http://www.wheresgeorge.com) that Cynical-Chick pointed out. The Secular Dollar!

I may have to find a custom stamps place, this sounds like it could be a little fun. How about "E Pluribus Unum", or "Atheist Money"? Go to http://www.evolvefish.com/fish/misc.html and scroll down the page to the rubber stamps. :D

[Norseman]

Blue marker crossing out god, and in blue pen on the top right corner "N.M." is mine. I'm marking all my money from here on out.

[AspenMama]

Moved from SL.

[xorbie]

"xorbie" on mine.

[MacPrince]

Well, I'd been Sharpie-ing out the entire IGWT and writing www.godoffmoney.com in the top margin, but now I'll add a 'MP' in the lower right. :)

[Barefoot Bree]

Thank you, AspenMama, for moving this thread. Now with perhaps a different audience, I might be able to get an answer to my original question:

Does anybody know who used the stamp I found?

To repeat: I have a $5 bill with the word "GOD" crossed off of that imfamous phrase, and stamped below it (red ink):
No "WE" don't. It's all
just Superstition. II

Since it has that "II" at the end, I thought a fellow infidel might have done it.

Any takers?

Regards, Barefoot Bree

[King Rat]

Because of this thread I've been crossing out god and writing VERUS underneath.


verus -a -um

[true , real, genuine; truthful, veracious; just, reasonable]. N. as subst. [truth, reality; right, duty]; 'veri similis', [likely, probable]. N. nom. as adv. verum, [but yet, still, however]; strengthened, verumtamen (verun-), [notwithstanding, nevertheless]. N. abl. as adv. vero, [in truth, indeed, in fact]; in a climax, [even, indeed]; ironically, [to be sure]; adversative, [but indeed, but in fact]. Adv. vere, [truly, really, rightly].

edit: I wonder if I should be using VERAX or VERACITAS instead?

[openeyes]

Ok, I'm in!

I'm just using a blue ballpoint because they're much more plentiful than sharpies. I'm replacing "God" with "us" (may be ungrammatical, but "ourselves" is too long) and the initials OE just to the right of "trust".

So be on the lookout, especially Minnesota infidels!

[Amazon]

Hi, Folks!

Boy, I haven't posted in a while, but I had to add my two cents to this thread. I have been correcting my currency since 2001, but I have yet to receive any in return. I can't be the only one working in downtown Chicago who takes the big sky fairy off her money.

Anyway, I have a make-it-yourself self-inking stamp from an office supply store. You make your own message using separate little rubber letters. I can change it whenever I feel like it.
Of course, I usually forget to use the stamp at home and I don't feel like carrying that thing in my purse, so I use my pen on the fly when I'm feeling militant.

If you happen to be in the Chicago area and get a bill with god crossed out and "the Constitution" written above it, that could be from me.

[Little-Aphid]

I live in Canada, but if any of you Canadian infidels get a bill marked with an "A" with a "z" in it (top of "z" is horizontal line) in the corner, you know I used to own it. It may look like a triangle since I do them so small. And it's always on the side with the human, not the animal.

That is all.

~Me.

[Bill]

If you see a bill with "God" scribbled out and "Ourselves" written underneath it, that would be my doing. :DI actually have a T-shirt with an altered coin motto on it: "In Us We Trust"

== Bill

[TheGreatInfidel]

I have a proposal.

Every first of the month we each cash a hundred-dollar bill into singles and we mark all one hundred of the singles. In a year each of us will have secularized 1200 bills. Multiply that number by the number of people involved in this project and .........just imagine the impact we will have. We could keep a tally. Perhaps we should set a goal, say, one million dollars. The more people we recruit into our project the quicker we will meet the goal. We could have one of those thermometer type charts. (damn, I'm on a roll!) Comments? Suggestions?

[Beleg_Strongbow]

I'd love to help, too bad I'm in Canada and our money is already god-free :D

Great idea though, keep up the good work everyone!

[PopeInTheWoods]

I use a fine black sharpie to put a single line through IGWT, and a heavier one to completely obliterate "God". Above or below it (depending on the bill type), I then write "E Pluribus Unum". And on the front, usually in red, goes www.wheresgeorge.com . Based on the suggestions here, I think I'll start marking "PITW" on the back. Thank goodness for conference calls!

Andy

[Secular Jeff]

I have in my hands a $5 bill, with the word "God" in "In God We Trust" scribbled out. It also has rubber-stamped on it,



Was this the work of an Internet Infidel? If so, I want to shake your hand, and ask for my own copy of that stamp.......

The Internet Infidels do not and have not sold rubber stamps of any kind.

Whenever I remember to do it, I mark out "God" on the back of all my paper currency.


Jeff

[sakrilege]

Comments? From here (http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20010228.html) . There are currently four billion $1 bills in circulation, and the life expectancy of each is approximately 18 months. The larger denominations are better for life span but I know I can't do 100 $5 bills. :p

[ju'iblex]

hm, this gives me an idea. Time to invest in a rubber stamp for all those Xian posters hanging around uni...

[MediocrityInAction]

Just thought I'd post this link in order to make all you Americans jealous. Here is a picture of our £10 note.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/newten/design.htm

[Demosthenes]

Just thought I'd post this link in order to make all you Americans jealous. Here is a picture of our £10 note.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/newten/design.htm

why is that supposed to make us jealous? I like the green bills just fine, except for that pesky God word :p

[One Who Thinks]

On $1 bills, I use a black marker to cover the IGWT. One other bills, I mark it out and write E Pluribus Unum above it (the $1 bill already has this on the great seal). I often post these bills to www.wheresgeorge.com, so I might get feedback on them or see where they end up.

[Shake]

why is that supposed to make us jealous? I like the green bills just fine, except for that pesky God word :pYeah, me too. Besides, you know how we Americans are about monarchs! :p

[chapka]

why is that supposed to make us jealous? I like the green bills just fine, except for that pesky God word :p

Try looking at the picture on the back. Can you imagine what the RaptureReady types would say if that picture were found on American currency? Can you imagine an American politician supporting it? More to the point, can you imagine it not being particularly controversial? That's what makes me jealous.

[RawData]

Just thought I'd post this link in order to make all you Americans jealous. Here is a picture of our £10 note.

http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/banknotes/newten/design.htm
To those who HAVEN"T noticed yet, the back has Charles Darwin's picture, in similar scale to front Queen picture. It might just be awhile before we see that here... Although we DID have dollar coins with Susan B. Anthony (Feminist and Atheist).
RawData
:)

[Jimmy Higgins]

Amateurs! Every other week, I take the coins I've gotten from change, melt each group of coins down, then recast them exactly as they are, just excluding the god. I used to chisel the word "god" out of my change, but that just took too long. ;)

[Barefoot Bree]

Amateurs! Every other week, I take the coins I've gotten from change, melt each group of coins down, then recast them exactly as they are, just excluding the god. I used to chisel the word "god" out of my change, but that just took too long. ;)
Yeah, we're amateurs.

On the other hand, we have lives, too. ;)

[BeHereNow]

Hello, all. I found out about this thread via another thread on a message board known as Theology Web. Apparently someone has taken offense to your "defacing" of US currency, and has allegedly reported the thread to the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury. Here is his post:

Internet Infidel members promote semi-organized effort to deface U.S. currency

And they even know the law, but don't care:

II Stamp on a 5 Dollar Bill?

The semi-organized effort takes shape on page 2 of the thread and continues on page 3. Nice. Idiots.

Someone there also linked to this page, which sells a bunch of rubber stamps for the sole purpose of defacing currency. (The morons even say so in the item descriptions!)

I think I'll contact the U.S. Dept. of the Treasury to see what they have to say........

The thread can be found here. (http://www.theologyweb.com/forum/showthread.php?t=24625) Just thought you'd find it interesting :)

[Jet Black]

is defacing notes a criminal offense in the US?

[Rhaedas]

Only if the intent is to alter the value of the bill. If it's still usable as currency, then no crime done.

Defacement of Currency

Defacement of currency is a violation of Title 18, Section 333 of the United States Code. Under this provision, currency defacement is generally defined as follows: Whoever mutilates, cuts, disfigures, perforates, unites or cements together, or does any other thing to any bank bill, draft, note, or other evidence of debt issued by any national banking association, Federal Reserve Bank, or Federal Reserve System, with intent to render such item(s) unfit to be reissued, shall be fined not more than $100 or imprisoned not more than six months, or both.

[Rhaedas]

I'd love to read the reaction over at TW, but I'm not bothering to register just to read their restricted areas. Anything interesting worth posting here in their opinions on non-christian freedom of speech?

[Anitra]

You might like to know that you aren't alone. ;) This has been going on for awhile now. http://www.atheists.org/flash.line/igwt1.htm

As for Theology Web's opinions on non-christian freedom of speech, or anything else: there's a variety of posters on Tweb. Due to one of the more rabid conservative types posting the alarming news of your criminal conspiracy to alter U.S. currency :cool: several of the liberal crowd at Tweb has been attracted over here, including me. We're all in favor of everybody's freedom of speech. The founders and moderators of Tweb are decidedly conservative Christians, generally in favor of freedom of speech except that they aren't sure things like writing on dollar bills and burning the flag count. :D Tweb is a comfortable place for some extremist conservatives, who are certain that things like writing on dollar bills and burning the flag don't count. :p I'd estimate that about 50% of the conservative Christians on Tweb, however, are moderates who don't get upset at such things, and a least a few of them think the currency-writing thing is funny, or even approve of it. There are conservative Christians in favor of the separation of church and state, also.

[Malachi151]

funny, I was reading this thread and thinking to myself, yeah, a list of people putting info on the internet about ways that they plan to deface money with ways to identify themselves as well, great idea :p

Sure enough...

Although I don't think that crossing out God should be considered defacing under teh law, I also recognize that we are under the control of a rabid theocracy, which may win the next election and start getting crazy, and thus I would have no desire to put anything identifying myself as a perpetrator of somethign that may potentially be prosecuted as a crime at some later date, and do remember that when you put something on the internet it is, for all intents a purposes, there for eternity.

If you post something today, I guarentee you that it will still have a foot print on the web 10 years from now and longer.

[Kingreaper]

funny, I was reading this thread and thinking to myself, yeah, a list of people putting info on the internet about ways that they plan to deface money with ways to identify themselves as well, great idea :p

Sure enough...

Although I don't think that crossing out God should be considered defacing under teh law, I also recognize that we are under the control of a rabid theocracy, which may win the next election and start getting crazy, and thus I would have no desire to put anything identifying myself as a perpetrator of somethign that may potentially be prosecuted as a crime at some later date, and do remember that when you put something on the internet it is, for all intents a purposes, there for eternity.

If you post something today, I guarentee you that it will still have a foot print on the web 10 years from now and longer.

I'm pretty sure you can't be prosecuted for something you did before it was made illegal

[McGargoyle]

I'm pretty sure you can't be prosecuted for something you did before it was made illegal
Not under the rule of law, no, but that's a pretty slim chance to take in a theocracy.

[Dragar]

While it's not currency (UK money is God free - hurrah!) we had a few posters around university, advertising a talk on 'The Existance of God' by the Christian Union.

On it was a quote from the Bible, written on two lines, as follows:

"Only a fools says...
there is no God."

-The Bible

Someone folded back the paper a line, and pinned it in place. So the poster now reads:

there is no God."

-The Bible

Whoever did that, I want to meet them and shake them by the hand! Defeating a logical fallacy ("Poisoning the Well") and making me laugh all in one go! :)

Dragar

[Evolutionist]

Has anyone else who lives in the UK seen £10 notes defaced? I've seen a few anti-evolution quotes under Darwin... But thankfully we tend to look down upon the extremist YECs like we do people who wear tin foil over their heads.

[Malachi151]

Has anyone else who lives in the UK seen £10 notes defaced? I've seen a few anti-evolution quotes under Darwin... But thankfully we tend to look down upon the extremist YECs like we do people who wear tin foil over their heads.

Funny you should mention that, I went to the bank and got 2 10 pound notes recently. I keep one in my wallet and I have one for safe keeping. I also carry 1 1929 $1 silver certificate, it looks like our current $1 except without "In God We Trust" on it, and I now have an extensive money collection of about 10 bills and growing from before IGWT was put on them.

I have a set of $1 -$100 framed in double glass (glass on both sides) on a table, makes a great conversation piece. :)

[Malachi151]

I'm pretty sure you can't be prosecuted for something you did before it was made illegal

No, but what if you continued after it was made illigal and then you have a source linking you to being a likely supect, etc, etc.

[Shake]

I couldn't remember if this site (http://godoffmoney.com/) had been mentioned yet. They used to sell stamps, but no longer do so.

[MagicBrowser]

Has anyone gotten in contact with the government to find out if it is OK? :p

BTW, we could use that colour changing ink to check if the bill is fine and just happen to check it on IGWT all the time :D

EDIT: :o Didn't realize this thread is 4 pages long and someone already came up with my idea :p

[Pendaric]

Reading this thread I'm all disappointed I live in the UK and can't join in.

More power to your elbows guys.