BigBlue2
March 28, 2004, 09:55 PM
An hour or three ago, I had some bible thumpers come to my door which rarely happens in largely secular Australia. Anyway, the two ladies went into their spiel about all the nastiness in the world and how they wanted to share some "Good News" with me. They quoted Psalm 37:10-11:
For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Once I got a word in I stated bluntly: "That's all very well, but I'm atheist".
They did a bit of a double take and I used the opportunity to add: "There are too many contradictions in the bible for me to take it seriously". They said words to the effect that all contradictions could be explained. I mentioned Ecclesiastes 9:5 which states:
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. To me that says that when you are dead, you are dead - no heaven, hell or anything like that. They said it merely states that the vast majority of people are forgotten after they die, but that they still live on in heaven. I didn't know what to answer to that. Score 1 to the fundies. I should have left contradictions alone and mentioned the barbarity of the deity they worship of which there are numerous examples, Psalms being full of them. Damn! :mad:
They were big on the theme of trust and asked whether I trusted that the sun would up in the morning. I said that trust had nothing to do with it, there are solid scientific reasons for a sunrise. They stated that science can't explain everything, for example what creates grass (don't ask me why they used that as an example). I said grass comes from a seed, like most other plants I know, and that it was "created" (for want of a better word) through evolution. At this point they realised that they weren't getting anywhere and extricated themselves from the conversation. Final score 1-1, I guess.
Anyway, that's my whinge for the day. Thanks for reading.
Cheers,
BB2
For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
Once I got a word in I stated bluntly: "That's all very well, but I'm atheist".
They did a bit of a double take and I used the opportunity to add: "There are too many contradictions in the bible for me to take it seriously". They said words to the effect that all contradictions could be explained. I mentioned Ecclesiastes 9:5 which states:
For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. To me that says that when you are dead, you are dead - no heaven, hell or anything like that. They said it merely states that the vast majority of people are forgotten after they die, but that they still live on in heaven. I didn't know what to answer to that. Score 1 to the fundies. I should have left contradictions alone and mentioned the barbarity of the deity they worship of which there are numerous examples, Psalms being full of them. Damn! :mad:
They were big on the theme of trust and asked whether I trusted that the sun would up in the morning. I said that trust had nothing to do with it, there are solid scientific reasons for a sunrise. They stated that science can't explain everything, for example what creates grass (don't ask me why they used that as an example). I said grass comes from a seed, like most other plants I know, and that it was "created" (for want of a better word) through evolution. At this point they realised that they weren't getting anywhere and extricated themselves from the conversation. Final score 1-1, I guess.
Anyway, that's my whinge for the day. Thanks for reading.
Cheers,
BB2